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Deadguy
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:13 am    Post subject: Throttle return spring Reply with quote

This is where the throttle return spring is hooked up-just strung on what I think is a vent line. Does anyone know where it is actually supposed to go?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a A1 I think the spring goes from the bellcrank on the side valve cover down to the square headed plug in the oil gallery. The plug had a hole drilled through the square. ( I think) I'd have to go look. John
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:23 am    Post subject: Spring Reply with quote

Hi,
Wrong spring, wrong location. It actually hooks to the oil galley plug on the side of the block below the lower bell crank of the throttle linkage. There is a cross hole drilled in that plug for the spring. It then extends upward to connect to the bell crank. I don't have a picture to post here, but I am sure Wes does.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO no no, that would be too easy! I always do things the hard way. You can spend or waste money that way and learn more Laughing Laughing John
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My question is, what's leaking all over the place?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My question is, what's leaking all over the place?


Nothing. The valve cover is a very glossy black and it was a very bright cloudy day when I took the photo.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was in reference to Dan's pic. I would eat off the block in your pic.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The seal on the oil filter is leaking. I have a new one on the way.
I think you guys have the wrong spring in mind, this is the spring on the bottom of the carburetor on the other side!


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The M38A1 does not use a spring on the carb side of the engine. Whomever added that spring was an ardvaark! Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to know. I will take it off immediately.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Previous owner probably had it on there for a reason but that reason was to bandage something else that was not right. So I'm just saying, with just taking it off, you might see some other ailment show up.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there has been alot wrong with this vehicle, and I've steady, over the course of the last year and a half, replaced or had rebuilt almost everything. I'm not saying something wonted break, but at least I'm running out of stuff that can. I had the remove the engine, ship it back to the rebuilder, and then reinstall it. That was done by a few guys at a local jeep shop, and the guy who pulled the engine isn't the guy who put it back in, so they might well have done it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, took the spring off. It looks like the throttle lever on the side of the carburetor has a little bit of play, and the spring was to "tighten it up" The lever is in no danger of coming off, and the play is minor. Is this normal? Here a pic I took of it in it's normal, relaxed position, and then of me pushing it in slightly (the way the spring had it).

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, apparently I've answered my own question. I took it out, and it was revving high, and staying high. I pulled it in my garage and checked the carburetor, and apparently the throttle lever doesn't return all the way to idle without that spring.
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