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rgmutchler Member
Joined: Sep 28, 2008 Posts: 345 Location: Caldwell, Texas
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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:01 pm Post subject: Dual Brake Master Cylinder Conversion Again |
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I have seriously thought about converting to a dual master cylinder when I get to the brakes on my restoration. Most of the kits I have seen seem to require modifications to the frame and there seem to be occasional fit problems with rerouting the brake lines to the side of the master cylinder. I have a friend who bought one of Herm's kits for his CJ3B and he ended up not using it because of the alteration and fit problems.
The other day I saw this conversion kit on Kaiser Willys' web site.
If I read the description correctly there are no frame modifications, brake lines come off the bottom of the master cylinder which fixes the clearance issues and the brake fluid reservoirs mount on the fire wall which eliminates having to deal with checking the fluid under the brake pedal. If it is as advertised it can easily be converted back to the original configuration.
Has any one seen or had any experience with this set up?
The item # on Kaiser Willys is 805223-CJDUAL
Ralph _________________ R G Mutchler
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artificer Member
Joined: Feb 16, 2007 Posts: 206 Location: Gold Coast Australia
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:31 am Post subject: |
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That is similar to a conversion I did using a Nissan pick up 1" dual master cylinder & remote lines to a fender mounted reservoir off a Mitsubishi Montero.
Total cost was about $28.
No modifying the frame @ all just welding up bolt on attachment that the new M/C mounted/bolted on.
The attachment bolted where the old master cylinder was fitted on the frame.
I might suggest if you go this route that you weld securing nuts to the attachment. I didn't & it was a bit fiddly getting together using 3 hands [1 of which I didn't have].
Also a Chevy pickup mechanical brake light switch is EZ to fit as you no longer have provision for the hydraulic type.
_________________ John GIBBINS
ASE Master Medium/Heavy Truck & Auto Technician 2002 USA
Licensed Motor Mechanic NSW # MVIC 49593 Current
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capescw Member
Joined: May 14, 2012 Posts: 150 Location: Milford CT
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:27 am Post subject: Possible add-on |
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Rather than the mechanical switch, why not affix a 'T' fitting in one of the lines, I believe the pressure switch is a standard pipe thread.
As an aside, I used a pressure switch for my horn switch (push-rod actually pressed on the internal disc).
IMHO
Bill _________________ "Frugality keeps me in the Game"
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Hawkshadow Member
Joined: Oct 10, 2012 Posts: 310 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Looking forward to this discussion, it is one of my next stages in the process. Have there been a few problems with Herm's setup? _________________ Jordan
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artificer Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Gives one an idea of the master cylinder bracket that bolts to the frame.
_________________ John GIBBINS
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