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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No contract number says inspected by 102
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you are missing mine from the list as well f-102010 52-32128 11-3-52 contract 742 and in case you care it was a w/wn as opposed to the more common wo/wn
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xamon wrote:
you are missing mine from the list as well f-102010 52-32128 11-3-52 contract 742 and in case you care it was a w/wn as opposed to the more common wo/wn


Well done.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BCA wrote:
Hi Guy,
The most comprehensive list of numbers was published by Rob Grieve, in CMP Magazine Issue 13, May 1996. He gave full credit to his sources: either his own inspection, to Colin Stevens in BC, to the MVPA Directories or to historical photos. Nearly all M38CDN data bases quote heavily from Rob's work.

... Brian


Hello Brian: do you know where one can get a copy of that magazine still or a digital copy? I would like to see it too.

Also, regarding the contract numbers, the last one I have with 639 is F-100240 and the earliest one with contract 742 is F-100462.

reddog: my M38 is F 100299 and there was no CAR...I also think you have the "Jeep" Script on the front of the toolbox. IF you happen to lightly take off the paint and do find a CAR, I would be very interested in also knowing what it was.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that info Myles.
You are correct I do have the Jeep script on the tool box.
I tried to carefully remove the paint when I was restoring it but could not get any legible numbers just spots of white paint.

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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

M38CDNBill wrote:
Hi Jean,

I watched in my list and I don't have this CAR number 52-30428. Many M38CDN don't survived any longer after their career in Canadian Forces and maybe this jeep no longer exist since a long time ago.

You can try to find this number on the Maple Leaf Up website which is specially dedicated to the Canadian military vehicles and their history: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/index.php

Cheers

Thank's Guy, Merci, I'll surch in many farms and some fishing and hunting camps, maybe exist somewhere i wish.
Thank's for your help.
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: M38 CDN Reply with quote

pickle wrote:
hello,

I may check with Brian Asbury if you can. he may be able to shed some light on it too.

I am curious, Guy, do you know the contract numbers for those two jeeps you listed? Also, do you have anything listed for CARs above/below F-10229?

thanks

myles

Thank's Pikle
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pickle wrote:
thanks Guy. and cheers from the west to you too as well!

btw, for Black Eagle....there is a individual from Ontario by the name of Rob who was editor of the Ontario Military Vehicle Association. May someone can help point you to his contact as his was on my old computer that crashed. Anyway he told me to look at the back of the data plate for grease pen markers that were done by inspectors...it might have the serial with the CAR/CFR on it. Also, he also maintained that if the unit passed inspection without any issue, there was the possibility that there was a specific number sequence between the serials and CAR/CFR. He may be able to get that to you depending on his database and CAR?CFR list. another good source.


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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: M38 CDN Reply with quote

M38CDNBill wrote:
pickle wrote:
...I am curious, Guy, do you know the contract numbers for those two jeeps you listed? Also, do you have anything listed for CARs above/below F-10229?

thanks

myles

Hi Myles,

No, I don't have the contract numbers for those two jeeps. Here is the list of SN, CAR and DOD that I have compiled over the years and any additional digits are welcome.

SN / CAR / DOD (Month-Day-Year) / Contract / W or WO winch

FXXXXXX / 51-30035
F100XXX / 52-30089
F100XXX / 52-30217
F100XXX / 52-30364
F100XXX / 52-30458
F100XXX / 52-30491
F100XXX / 52-30542
F100XXX / 52-30568
F100XXX / 52-30590
F100XXX / 52-30794
F100XXX / 52-30873
F100XXX / 52-30878
F100XXX / 52-30882
F100XXX / 52-30906
F100XXX / 52-30910
F100XXX / 52-30993
F100XXX / 52-31796
F100009 / XX-XXXXX / 02-22-1952
F100019 / XX-XXXXX / 02-05-1952
F100038 / XX-XXXXX
F100071 / XX-XXXXX / 02-06-1952
F100088 / 52-30138
F100089 / 52-32152 / 02-12-1952
F100092 / 52-30666 / 02-25-1952
F100092 / XX-XXXXX
F100093 / XX-XXXXX / 02-12-1952
F100103 / XX-XXXXX / 02-11-1952
F100143 / XX-XXXXX
F100163 / 52-30234 / 03-31-1952
F100168 / 52-30127 / 03-28-1952
F100180 / 52-31268 / 04-04-1952
F100187 / 52-30196 / 03-26-1952
F100190 / XX-XXXXX
F100226 / XX-XXXXX / 03-31-1952
F100248 / 52-30303 / 03-31-1952
F100249 / 52-30323 / 04-08-1952
F100253 / XX-XXXXX
F100268 / XX-XXXXX / 04-05-1952
F100273 / 52-30409
F100282 / XX-XXXXX / 04-03-1952
F100290 / XX-XXXXX
F100297 / 52-30548
F100314 / XX-XXXXX
F100324 / 52-30454 / 04-26-1952
F100337 / 52-30982 / 04-10-1952 / 742 / WO
F100347 / XX-XXXXX / 04-08-1952
F100349 / 52-30367
F100352 / 52-30549
F100366 / XX-XXXXX
F100388 / XX-XXXXX / 04-30-1952
F100409 / 52-30149
F100424 / XX-XXXXX
F100434 / XX-XXXXX
F100462 / XX-XXXXX / 05-01-1952
F100489 / XX-XXXXX
F100501 / XX-XXXXX / 04-26-1952
F100510 / XX-XXXXX
F100512 / XX-XXXXX / 04-20-1952
F100573 / 52-30928
F100654 / 51-33341 / 07-05-1952
F100655 / 51-30515 / 05-05-1952
F100657 / 52-31657 / XX-XX-XXXX / 742 / WO
F100664 / 52-30716 / 05-03-1952
F100XXX / 52-30718 / 05-03-1952
F100671 / 52-30702 / XX-XX-XXXX / 742 / WO
FXXXXXX / 52-30946
F100688 / 52-30987
F1007XX / 52-30660
F100725 / XX-XXXXX
F10077X / XX-XXXXX
F100773 / 52-31088 / 06-16-1952 / 742 / WO
F100796 / 52-30688 / 04-14-1952
FXXXXXX / 52-30718 / 05-03-1952
F100814 / 52-30792 / 06-01-1952
F100816 / 52-30869 / 05-13-1952
F100822 / 52-31153
F100833 / 52-30XXX / 06-02-1952
F100932 / 52-30965 / 06-03-1952
F100934 / 52-30934
F100948 / 52-30951
F100949 / 52-30987 / 06-05-1952
F100965 / 52-31125 / 06-03-1952
F100970 / 52-30970
FXXXXXX / 52-31154
FXXXXXX / 52-31183
F101XXX / 51-31323
F101XXX / 52-31333
F101XXX / 52-31362
F101XXX / 52-31413
F101XXX / 52-31432
F101XXX / 52-31490
F101XXX / 52-31492
F101XXX / 52-31544
F101XXX / 52-31552
F101XXX / 52-31577
F101XXX / 52-31719
F101XXX / 52-31845
F101XXX / 52-31888
F101XXX / 52-32011 / 12-01-1952
F101XXX / 52-32015
F101050 / 52-31071 / 06-24-1952
F101078 / 52-30152 / 06-14-1952
F101084 / 52-31053
F101094 / XX-XXXXX / 06-13-1952
F101101 / 52-31690 / 06-17-1952
F101115 / XX-XXXXX / 06-17-1952
F101132 / 52-31162 / 06-19-1952
F101172 / 52-31203 / 06-25-1952
FXXXXXX / 52-31254
F101186 / 52-31270 / 06-27-1952
F101205 / XX-XXXXX / 06-27-1952
F101214 / 52-31278 / 07-04-1952
F101226 / 52-31249 / 07-03-1952
F101228 / 52-XXXXX / 07-09-1952
F101XXX / 52-31313
F101247 / 52-31347
F101287 / 52-31321 / 07-11-1952 / 742 / WO
F101288 / XX-XXXXX / 09-07-1952
F101288 / 52-31291 / 07-09-1952
FXXXXXX / 52-31309
F101292 / XX-XXXXX / 09-01-1952
F101294 / XX-XXXXX / 07-10-1952
F101306 / 52-31354
F101343 / 52-31359 / 07-12-1952
F101352 / XX-XXXXX / 07-12-1952
F101354 / 52-31379 / 07-12-1952
F101366 / XX-XXXXX / 07-16-1952
F101369 / XX-XXXXX / 07-21-1952
F101378 / 52-31439 / 07-18-1952
F101394 / XX-XXXXX
F101397 / 52-31450 / 07-18-1952
F101467 / XX-XXXXX
F101489 / 52-31482 / 07-25-1952
F101490 / 52-31596 / 07-07-1952
F101504 / 52-31525
F101522 / XX-XXXXX / 07-31-1952
F101528 / XX-XXXXX / 07-28-1952
F101547 / 52-31528 / 07-10-1952
F101552 / XX-XXXXX
F101563 / 52-31608
F101568 / XX-XXXXX
F101590 / 52-31628 / 07-31-1952
F101597 / XX-XXXXX / 08-03-1952
F101599 / XX-XXXXX
F101623 / 52-31605 / 08-02-1952
F101634 / 52-31354
F101634 / 52-31529
F101653 / 52-31705 / 08-21-1952
F101669 / 52-31682 / 08-19-1952
F101701 / 52-31749 / 08-27-1952
F101706 / 52-31691
FXXXXXX / 52-31925
F101723 / 52-32092
F101738 / XX-XXXXX
F101745 / 52-31756 / 08-28-1952
F101767 / 52-31790 / XX-XX-XXXX / 742 / WO
F101782 / 52-31795 / 09-11-1952
F101788 / 52-31801 / 09-11-1952 / 742 / WO
F101794 / 52-31799 / 09-11-1952
F101804 / XX-XXXXX / 09-16-1952
F101815 / 52-32058 / 09-16-1952
F101820 / XX-XXXXX / 09-15-1952
F101823 / XX-XXXXX
F101840 / XX-XXXXX
F101847 / 52-31909 / 10-02-1952
F101854 / XX-XXXXX / 09-18-1952
F101855 / 52-31847 / 09-09-1952
F101865 / 52-31855 / 09-18-1952 / 742 / WO
F101884 / 52-31860 / 09-22-1952
F1019XX / 52-31946
F101998 / 52-31949 / 10-28-1952
F102005 / 52-31968 / 10-21-1952
F102008 / XX-XXXXX / 10-20-1952
F102010 / 52-32128 / 11-03-1952 / 742 / W
F102021 / 52-31971
F102031 / XX-XXXXX / 11-04-1952
F102035 / 52-31964 / 11-04-1952
F102039 / XX-XXXXX / 11-05-1952
F102041 / 52-32137
F102049 / 52-31985 / 11-05-1952
F102077 / 52-32000 / 11-11-1952
F102078 / XX-XXXXX / 11-18-1952
F102093 / XX-XXXXX / 11-20-1952
F102123 / 52-31771 / 11-22-1952
F102127 / XX-XXXXX / 02-25-1953
F102135 / XX-XXXXX /
FXXXXXX / 52-32649
FXXXXXX / 52-31376
FXXXXXX / 52-31685


Wouaw Guy good work
I have data list too I'll compare with your's, I complete and sent to you adds.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 12:05 pm    Post subject: Re: M38 CDN Reply with quote

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I have data list too I'll compare with your's, I complete and sent to you adds.


Black Eagle: I have put together Guy's and mine together that I will gladly share with you and send to this website. If Wes and Ryan post it, I encourage everyone to look at it and make changes that are needed. If you have a list, I could add to this list if you want. I like working with spreadsheets, so it would be no problem at all.

Guy: I am curious as to how you have on your list you know that the serial would be F-101xxx or F-102xx with the known CARS. Maybe if can describe it, it would help me understand the reasoning.

Guys list really helps paint a better picture and fill in gaps. there is now approximately 250 on it. Thank you Guy.

There are, however, a couple of serials that have the same CARs, and I also found one serial with 3 different CARs. I think that this unit had a particular restamp on it, so I do not know which was the correct one.

A word of caution here...the lists are incomplete, or might have errors, I tried to put a hyper link to where the unit is on the internet for clarification. I ask if you see something let me know to add, delete, or change.

Also, if anyone wants it for review, let me know your e-mail and I would gladly send it.

cheers,

Mk
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Myles and Guy: PM me with your mailing addresses and I will send a hard copy of the original CMP Magazine article (I was editor at the time!) listing serial numbers documented by Rob G.: he quotes his source in every case: whether a personal obrsevation, a historical photograph or a sighting by other enthusiasts like Colin Stevens.
Then you each can update your lists. Many of the CFR's on the list are from body stencils in historical photos: good to note this type of source since the the vehicle may not even exist any more.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: M38 CDN Reply with quote

pickle wrote:
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I have data list too I'll compare with your's, I complete and sent to you adds.


Black Eagle: I have put together Guy's and mine together that I will gladly share with you and send to this website. If Wes and Ryan post it, I encourage everyone to look at it and make changes that are needed. If you have a list, I could add to this list if you want. I like working with spreadsheets, so it would be no problem at all.

Guy: I am curious as to how you have on your list you know that the serial would be F-101xxx or F-102xx with the known CARS. Maybe if can describe it, it would help me understand the reasoning.

Guys list really helps paint a better picture and fill in gaps. there is now approximately 250 on it. Thank you Guy.

There are, however, a couple of serials that have the same CARs, and I also found one serial with 3 different CARs. I think that this unit had a particular restamp on it, so I do not know which was the correct one.

A word of caution here...the lists are incomplete, or might have errors, I tried to put a hyper link to where the unit is on the internet for clarification. I ask if you see something let me know to add, delete, or change.

Also, if anyone wants it for review, let me know your e-mail and I would gladly send it.

cheers,

OK Pickle

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Bryan,

How does one register for the Maple Leaf forums? I still cannot get past the "Registration is temporarily suspended" notice which sends you to an explanation of how to properly register which only leads back to the suspended notice again.
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian, I would be interested too if you know who to contact.

Wes, I will forward you a new list as soon as I see the article that Brian is talking about.

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To. Wes. I also tried to register on the Maple Leaf Up forum. They seem to be having a shortage of manpower right now to take on new members . They will work through what they have and then take new registrations..
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