ID these BO Grill markers

Bretto · Post by **Bretto** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:13 am

Are these correct or will they work? I dont have them yet. Im only interested in the grill markers, I'm not looking to get the other items.
Thanks,
Brett

RICKG · Post by **RICKG** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:43 am

Brett, you have (2) left rear fixtures which may be
good since the rt rear fixture is practically useless
in todays traffic.

evanso1975 · Post by **evanso1975** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:52 am

The grill markers look identical to ones that I bought, but where those have a wire out the back, mine had packard connectors. Could just be the remains of some old wiring harness still stuck in the plug. Can you get a photo of the back of the housing?

Looking at page 112 (ORD 9), all you would need is item M ('pad') for them to fit. And nuts & washers of course.

Can't tell if both have the threaded stud for mounting to the grill, but this should be readily available. It should just thread into the base of the housing......

Bretto · Post by **Bretto** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:19 am

I dont have these yet in my possesion and Im only getting the front grill markers. I think Im just going to buy them from the guy. Just wanted to check.
Thanks guys,
Brett

TomM · Post by **TomM** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:55 am

They look like M series marker lights.
Is that a weld blob holding the cover on the bottom?
ask the seller to shoot a picture of the inside if possible. They are usually in good condition and can be disassembled inside for rewiring or they are full of water and rust. If they are full of water and rust the sockets will be bad.
Tom

Bretto · Post by **Bretto** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:06 am

I dont know if its a weld blob. I just took a chance and dropped $20 for the pair deliverd to my door. I'll make them work. I have plans anyway to gut them out and make them into regular turn signals with amber bulbs. We'll see when they get here.

TomM · Post by **TomM** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:30 am

Good plan. I'm working on a set trying to modify to a dual filament bulb so that it is BO and directional and can change lenses. I'll post if I can get the right bulb and socket setup.

oilleaker1 · Post by **oilleaker1** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:01 am

I think the wire out the back was correct for the M38/m38A1 and the packard style was later like the M151. My wiring was shot, but the Vintage Wiring of Maine kit I bought had the spring, contact and wire in the set to fix it. I was pleased. John

oldgreentrucks · Post by **oldgreentrucks** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:38 pm

The small unit looks like the M series B/O brake light that went above the rear light on trucks and trailers. The grille units should have 2 slits for 'cat eyes" where the brake unit only has the 1 pictured.
Likely as simple as replacing with the correct door?
Jim

Post by **wesk** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:43 pm

Good catch Jim. Yes just a door swap will make them correct for the front.

This is the small BO brake lamp lens.

4x4M38 · Post by **4x4M38** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:47 pm

So the small black out brake lamp added to M units
for turn signals has a white delta shaped filter. The bulb
is clear.

Are these lights supposed to be white to the rear?

The regular black out brake fixture has a red lens cover.

ID these BO Grill markers

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