M38 data plates and master plate
- Texbillhs
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M38 data plates and master plate
I have see both M38s with a master dash data plate mount (a sheet metal 7x11 plate) and what looks to be original data plates mounted directly to the dash. I haven't seen it, but I have been told M38s had both the 4" hole under the master dash data plate mount and of course if original data plates are mounted directly to the dash there is no 4" hole. The question I have is when in the M38 production did Willys change to a hole with a master plate or discontinued the plate and hole? Was the direct mounted plates early production or late production?
1952 M38
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Well the easiest place to find the answer is in the ORD 9 parts manual.Page 338 shows Plate, Mounting used on vehicles after MC34151.
The round hole is for the heater ducting. The Kit instructions for those heater kits tell you on early models move the plates and cut the hole.
Or if you go to our downloads page and open the PDF file for the M38 serial number data base you will see the entry for "Last to use plates mounted directly to the dash" on page 4, middle of the page.
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... =Downloads
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... oad&cid=35
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/downloads/M38SNDB.pdf
There is a wealth of data here in the post, on the downloads page and in the several hundred photos in my technical info photo album on our "Member's albums" page in our Photo Gallery.
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=gallery
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
Just start tapping the keys on your keyboard!

The round hole is for the heater ducting. The Kit instructions for those heater kits tell you on early models move the plates and cut the hole.
Or if you go to our downloads page and open the PDF file for the M38 serial number data base you will see the entry for "Last to use plates mounted directly to the dash" on page 4, middle of the page.
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... =Downloads
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... oad&cid=35
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/downloads/M38SNDB.pdf
There is a wealth of data here in the post, on the downloads page and in the several hundred photos in my technical info photo album on our "Member's albums" page in our Photo Gallery.
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=gallery
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
Just start tapping the keys on your keyboard!
Wes K
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45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
