More photos of an M38A1 in a crate

[Thunderbird712]

I know one photo of this A1 in a crate (on the scale) has been on the forums but I am surprised I havent seen the rest on here. I am sure a lot of people have seen the rest of these photos but I figured I would put them up in the historic vintage photos section. Found during the typical google search

[RICKG]

Ya just dream about that stuff don't ya..
Ahh, the smell of cosmoline in the mornin'..

[bluewatersailor]

Thanks for the Eye Candy.

[wesk]

I notice the confirmation of no side curtain hardware from the factory in those photos.

[Thunderbird712]

So if the jeep stayed the 2430OD throughout its service as some did and didnt get painted to 24087 would most of the body bolts/screws remain unpainted? Reason I ask is I was thinking of going with 2430 on my jeep in a motor pool class resto and if most often then not they remained unpainted I might want to go that route.

[GPA]

On picture #1 the glove box lid and gauge panel has a different shade.

[acengraver]

I wish I had had this photo when my Jeep was being judged at the National Convention. Then I would have had a good answer for why I didn't paint the bolt heads and screw heads on the body handles, dash, rod brackets etc...

[Thunderbird712]

Seats look rather shinny for canvas...

[wesk]

With very little hard evidence either way on the external hardware I would assume it would not be a scored item?

Has anyone determined the original location and date of these photos?

[evanso1975]

Has anyone determined the original location and date of these photos?

At the earliest, late 1953. Going off the later battery box lid and lack of hinged grille. Still has the top bow thumbscrews though.

[acengraver]

The crate behind the driver's seat contains at least one 2-HN Battery (Maybe both) and the crate in the wheel well of the same photo is marked "1 IMP. Gal. Battery Acid". The date on the battery crate is 3/?. The year is obscured by the strapping.

[Thunderbird712]

This is the picture I first came acrossed here on the site that got me started on the google search.


I looked through the vintage photos and didnt see it there so I apologize if I missed it and uploaded it again. As you can see in the picture on the scale it says Toledo. As far as a date I dont have any info for that. Where I found them on the web has no mention of that. I will continue to look though. Another date indicator if I am correct would be the frame as well. Notice the oval cut outs in the front frame rails in the fourth picture down in the original post. I believe that is an early frame but cant remember off the top of my head what dates the frame changed. Will have to look that up again.

[wesk]

On picture #1 the glove box lid and gauge panel has a different shade.

They were painted separately then attached during final assembly. The instrument clusters came from the manufacturer as a completed assembly and already painted at their factory.

Seats look rather shinny for canvas...

The M38A1 came from Willys with vinyl seat covers.

"1 IMP. Gal. Battery Acid".

Perhaps this may be a M38A1CDN?

[acengraver]

The carton next to the battery carton immediately behind the driver's seat is the other battery. The data block on it is turned the other way and is visible in the photo from the right rear quarter. Also there is a what appears to be a USN stock number on the battery cartons. I would assume that the batteries would be labeled the same for all branches , though.

[wesk]

The "USN" abbreviaition was not used often. The more common was "FSN" thru about 1965 then "NSN".

I am reasonably sure this is either a M38A1CDN (first Canadian model) or an export model that was shipped from Willys to another country due to the lack of a USA hood number.