Why so hard to get Started? M38
- joebuck
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Why so hard to get Started? M38
My M38 1952 fully restored runs like a top when i get it running but the initial warm up from cold takes several minutes. My current procedure is I pull choke out all the way and throttle 1 inch then engage starter.. It will crank up nicely but i have to take choke off and flutter the throttle for mintues to keep it cranked. If i put it in gear it will stall. is this the nature of the beast or other problems? thanks
1952 M38
- wesk
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Several things can cause your symptoms.
1-Heat riser mechanism in plenum below carb not warming plenum.
2-Not having the correct thick carb base gasket which not only insulates the carb from manifold heat but has a metal "V" device or defuser that assist with atomization of the gas at low RPMs.
3-Bypass hose for water pump missing.
4-Thermostat stuck open or missing.
1-Heat riser mechanism in plenum below carb not warming plenum.
2-Not having the correct thick carb base gasket which not only insulates the carb from manifold heat but has a metal "V" device or defuser that assist with atomization of the gas at low RPMs.
3-Bypass hose for water pump missing.
4-Thermostat stuck open or missing.
Wes K
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- joebuck
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- wesk
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I listed them by order of level of difficulty. Easiest first is always a good choice.
This is the heat riser:

They came in two different arrangements on the spring.

This is the correct carb base gasket:

This is the heat riser:

They came in two different arrangements on the spring.

This is the correct carb base gasket:

Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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- joebuck
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- wesk
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I got mine from a surplus dealer a year or so ago. Picked up a few so I wouldn't come up short when I needed one in a hurry. Try the dealers and search with the part number I posted.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0 ... tor&_frs=1
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0 ... tor&_frs=1
Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php