BUMPERETTES

Rockytop · Post by **Rockytop** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:02 am

Hey guys trying to find out some info on bumperettes for my M38A1 My jeep was missing a few pieces such as fuel tank, windshield frame and bumperettes. I have found the tank and windshield frame and they are in route. just wandering if the bumperettes are all the same , before I go and start looking.

Thanks,
Martin

4x4M38 · Post by **4x4M38** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:12 pm

Mine don't look like the pretty straight ones in the pictures.....

RICKG · Post by **RICKG** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:32 pm

I cant be for certain but I believe theyre the same except the earlier MB ones have smaller mounting holes. I thought there was an earlier post somewhere here but I cant didn't find it.

Post by **wesk** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:08 pm

The WWII jeeps used A1157 (ORD# 7698482) attached with 3/8"x24 Bolts

M38/M38A1 used 800078 (ORD# 7372819) attached with 1/2"x20 bolts.

CJ3B, 5 & 6 used 910080 Attached with 1/2"x20 bolts.

4x4M38 · Post by **4x4M38** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:09 pm

Is there any hope in this wide, wide world of straightening them if they are indeed spring steel?

Not only did my boy Bubba cut out some of one's top side on the right one, but of course backed repeatedly into something with the left one.

Musty have been a seeing thing because the entire left rear of the jeep is a disaster.

I'm afraid of unbolting the left one as it may decide to leave the confines of the county in which it resides, or perhaps at minimum deform the owner's arm or digits with whatever tool is being used to loosen the mounting bolts.

Back to the post. It sounds like externally the MB/GPW bumperettes are identical to the M38/A1 jobs, except for the mounting holes.

Post by **wesk** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:34 pm

Nothing I posted should lead you to believe they are in anyway identical to either of the other two. All three have different part numbers. The only matching data is the bolt diameter of the last two. Also the WWII units were mounted with the extended edge up versus M38/M38A1/M170/CJ all extended edge down. If you look at the WWII units you will see the transition from the extended edge back to the side is curved whereas the M38/M38A1/M170 are angular.

Yes they are tempered and extremely difficult to straighten damage.

Rockytop · Post by **Rockytop** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:50 pm

Thanks guys that answers my questions, Brian I couldn't help but laugh at your story of Bubba. Wes you seem to be an endless book of knowledge on these vehicles , thanks for sharing it. also Wes can you give me access to start posting pics of my jeep project.
Thanks,
Martin

Post by **wesk** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:23 pm

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DanS · Post by **DanS** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:33 am

They are hard to straighten. I used a local old time blacksmith shop that also specializes in large saw mill blade restorations. They worked magic on my GPWs bumperettes. They straightened them, then re heat treated them to retain the temper.

Dan

oilleaker1 · Post by **oilleaker1** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:19 am

Both mine were squashed inwards and off to one side. I put a sizzors jack inside them while still on the frame. Jacked them out and worked them over with a sledge hammer. They came back pretty good. They are indeed tough, but they can be fixed. Do not unbolt them and try it. Enjoy. John

Bretto · Post by **Bretto** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:19 am

Watch out that you don't end up buying M151 bumperettes, they look similar but are more squared off at the ends. I think I heard the will bolt on, and work just fine but if your looking for originality, pass on them. I think it was Peter DeBella that has those in stock for a good price if you want to go that route.