Is this top really a NOS M38 top?

Post by **wesk** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:57 am

I was asked this in a PM and think it should be shared with the all membership to discuss to all our benefit.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-WILLYS- ... 6f&vxp=mtr

Is this thing legit, Wes?

I see a repair on the top, so is not a brand new shelf queen.

They are pushing 325 for brand new, so will be interesting to see where this one ends up.

Note: This is the inside view.

Bretto · Post by **Bretto** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:13 am

I think its a 3A half cab top.

Post by **wesk** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:39 am

Could well be. It looks a bit short for the full length of the tub.

3A halftop.

http://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/vinta ... c7803.html

4x4M38 · Post by **4x4M38** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:10 pm

The distance between the half top back and the top of the window opening is different between the two photos, and I do not see that kicked up diagonal section on the flat piece.

Also, is not the reinforcement across the middle for the front bow?

Post by **wesk** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:21 pm

I would suggest you ask the seller a simple question. What is the length of the top?

M38 top installed.

M38 top laid out on the floor.

ChuckW · Post by **ChuckW** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:23 pm

I would contact Dave Pizzoferrato, I'm sure he would know what it fits.
http://www.odcloth.com/

BullRun · Post by **BullRun** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:18 am

The military tops are angular in construction. The civilian have the arched openings.

Unless your talking about some of the militarized CJ vehicles but that is getting picky.

Bretto · Post by **Bretto** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:07 am

Ya it is a bit long for a half cab. I still think it's a 3A top.
How's this.

4x4M38 · Post by **4x4M38** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:04 am

The removeable rear panel makes it non-M38.
Your last pic Bretto looks spot on.

Post by **wesk** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:28 am

That photo is a CJ3A convertable top. It converts from full top to half top. That is not what you see on your ebay sale.

When you remove the two side curtains and the rear curtain you get this. If you remove the remaining rear top half you have a simple half top.

The CJ3A & 3B use the same top. Here's the standard factory style canvas top. This is the style on your Ebay sale.

4x4M38 · Post by **4x4M38** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:14 pm

Agree. I has the retainer flaps for the rear vertical bows on each corner.