Strap Routing for Top Bow storage.

Nic · Post by **Nic** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:16 am

Hi all,

I remember many years ago seeing a illustration of how the stowage straps go around the Top Bow tubing to secure it on the Jeep. I now cannot find it can anybody point me in the right direction please.

Thank You

Regards

Nic

Post by **wesk** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:42 am

From the M38A1 TM 9-8014

From the M38 TM 9-8012

Essentially both jeeps do it the same way. The strap was either stowed in the tool box or stowed on the rear wheelhouse thru a rear footloop.

Nic · Post by **Nic** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:03 am

As always Wes

Thank You

Regards

JBJeep · Post by **JBJeep** » Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:40 pm

This reminds me, I need a pair.
I have looked at the usual vendors and come up fairly empty...one only sells complete kits..which I do not need.

Can.anyone provide a PN (probably doesn't have one...it's part of top assembly) or vendor?

RonD2 · Post by **RonD2** » Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:36 pm

Strap isn't part of the top.
Captivated by a footman loop.
I found the part number listed in the ORD9.

I see KW and QTM selling them (as a pair), but not sure length is correct.
It's also the same strap used to hold the windshield down when folded.

Good luck!

Pierre · Post by **Pierre** » Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:56 pm

What's the lenght or part number you need?
I have a NOS box of 25 straps, I can sell you a couple if you like

JBJeep · Post by **JBJeep** » Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:04 pm

Pierre

I don't know. I'll try to fond the PN in my ORD 9.
I have no reason DEA about the length .

RonD2 · Post by **RonD2** » Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:33 pm

I've found lengths of 15 and 22 inches, and different type buckles.
I think maybe it depends on M38 or M38A1 and if you're after originality or don't care about it.

And the strap is supposed to have a sewn-in loop on the buckle end to captivate the strap to the footman loop on top of the wheelhouse.

What's "DEA" mean?

See M38A1 ORD9 page 341, STRAP, Top Bow Stowage, WO-681956.

JBJeep · Post by **JBJeep** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:48 am

"DEA" = "idea" somehow changed by the auto correct on my tablet.

RonD2 · Post by **RonD2** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:33 pm

Yup.
I got the habit a long time ago of reading what I type before hitting the "send" button --- just to keep a computer from making me look like a fool.

When I type something foolish I want it to be genuine.

4x4M38 · Post by **4x4M38** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:22 pm

JBJeep · Post by **JBJeep** » Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:47 am

Ron, Wesk

Details on the ones offered by various vendors seem to be pretty nonspecific.... Certainly no WO- or Army number is provided. Neither is length.

In other words they are just described as top bow straps.
Not a huge help if one wants to try to be correct.

Picking a catalog at random (it has good pictures) are these correct?

https://www.kaiserwillys.com/products/u ... -66-m38a1/

rgmutchler · Post by **rgmutchler** » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:20 am

I thought that Wee Bee Webbing offered some of the different straps and had some measurements for them on their website.

Post by **wesk** » Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:39 am

Your answer has always been right in the M38's ORD 9 SNL G-740!!!!!

M38A1 top bow straps are different and are listed with dimensions in the M38A1 ORD 9 SNL G-758 page 341: ORD Part # 592637 1" x 25".

JBJeep · Post by **JBJeep** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:20 am

That's all great, I appreciate your efforts, but I will point out none of the vendors list part numbers (WO or ORD) or dimensions for their straps.

Makes ordering the correct one difficult.
Hence my questions.

KW offers them with spring loaded buckles, which John at Midwest military says are correct for all M series vehicles.

The photos posted in a previous thread

http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... pic&t=8368

http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... pic&t=9082

seem to show buckles that do not appear to have the spring feature.