Tire Question...

Discussion topics on Willys Overland M series vehicles

Moderators: TomM, Moderator, wesk

User avatar
wesk
Site Administrator
Site Administrator
Posts: 16413
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:00 pm
Location: Wisconsin
Contact:

Post by wesk »

I'll bet the color has something to do with that! :o
Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
User avatar
Bill_F
Member
Posts: 891
Joined: Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:00 pm
Location: New Hampshire

Post by Bill_F »

Yes it does. Mine will hopefully be matching it very soon
Powermwt
Member
Posts: 53
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:00 pm
Location: Fort Worth Texas
Contact:

Post by Powermwt »

Just a small bit of information guys.
What are called valve stem protectors, are not really that, but a sleeve to assist in mounting the tube.

WO-A-5987 Sleeve, tire valve mounting, is the MB part number.

It is listed in SNL-G-740 under Group 13, Section 1313 Tires and Tubes.
H014-0520894 Sleeve, Tire valve mounting ( for the valves of 6:00 - 16 tubes, when mounted with bead locks).

G503 crowd calls them protectors also.

So, I don’t see how the M38 left the factory with bead locks or these sleeves if they had a one piece wheel. :wink:
1944 MB-NAVY-
MZ-1
User avatar
Ryan_Miller
Site Administrator
Site Administrator
Posts: 1668
Joined: Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:00 pm
Location: Kansas

Post by Ryan_Miller »

Hal,

Looks great!

I always thought the valve stem protecors were the metal shells that screw onto the valve stem after the tire was mounted to the rim. The valve stem cap screws on top of the tip of the shell.

I will see if I can post a photo.

Image
Ryan Miller
MVPA # 22010
User avatar
wesk
Site Administrator
Site Administrator
Posts: 16413
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:00 pm
Location: Wisconsin
Contact:

Post by wesk »

Mark,
The six pilot model m38's had the WWII combat wheel, 6.00x6 tires and tubes, full floater rear and 4:88 gears.
Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
Powermwt
Member
Posts: 53
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:00 pm
Location: Fort Worth Texas
Contact:

Post by Powermwt »

Hehe, those metal shells are the sleeves, Ryan. I do understand they protect the valve stem... just that is was a plus, not the intended application. Why... beats me. :?

Wes, someone on G503 posted a thread that they were also testing limited slip and locking differentials... any of these pilot models use this?

Oh, V35/U used combat wheels. Did it also have 4.88 and the Spicer 23-2 full floating rear end?
1944 MB-NAVY-
MZ-1
User avatar
wesk
Site Administrator
Site Administrator
Posts: 16413
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:00 pm
Location: Wisconsin
Contact:

Post by wesk »

That's a question for Harold or george. The CJV35's I've seen all had 41/44 rears. I think Willys only toyed with the 23-2 rear for the M38 pilot models because it would have share commonality of parts with the existing MB supply system. The military may have played a role if the technical side of procurement had a distrust of the fairly new 41 rear.
Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
User avatar
BobW
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 222
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:00 pm
Location: Monticello, NY
Contact:

Post by BobW »

The CJV-35 used a 41 rear with 5:38 gears.
Bob W. Monticello, NY. 1952 CJ3A, 1952 M38, 1950 CJV-35/U
User avatar
Bill_F
Member
Posts: 891
Joined: Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:00 pm
Location: New Hampshire

Post by Bill_F »

Hal,

What paint did you use? I am Going to be using PPG U.S. Air Force Stratta Blue code # 17634
OKCM38CDN

Post by OKCM38CDN »

I used Gillespie USAF Strata Blue - 25045 from Rapco... Mixed 2:1 with thinner and 8:1 with hardener... Per the instructions on the AJP site for paint and hardener can...

We used a HVLP gun and was able to do it in 100 degree weather (Benifit of living in OKlahoma)... Next time I will use Xylene for thinner as it dries much faster and is cheaper...

Hope this helps...
User avatar
Bill_F
Member
Posts: 891
Joined: Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:00 pm
Location: New Hampshire

Post by Bill_F »

I am hoping the PPG is a pretty close match. It is $68 a gallon but I dont have to pay for hazmat shipping of $30 on top of what is already charged for shipping. I figure it is about the same price per gallon then. The only nice thing with maybe going with the paint you went with I can get it in spray cans which could come in handy for some of the small parts.
User avatar
wesk
Site Administrator
Site Administrator
Posts: 16413
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:00 pm
Location: Wisconsin
Contact:

Post by wesk »

Bill,
I have had my local paint supllier put any color I or he has in bulk into spray bombs for me locally. I do it often for zinc-chromate primer on aircraft to get away from the hazard shping rates.
Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
User avatar
Bill_F
Member
Posts: 891
Joined: Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:00 pm
Location: New Hampshire

Post by Bill_F »

I dont know if the local place can put it in spray bombs. They can mix a gallon for me without any problems however.
User avatar
Cacti_Ken
Member
Posts: 1021
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:00 pm
Location: Silsbee, Texas

Post by Cacti_Ken »

I ordered some flaps and got them in to day. I placed one on a wheel to see how it fits. It sure is a sloppy fit. It is for a 16inch wheel but fits really loose.

I thought the flap was supposed to be sort of a snug fit on the wheel such as the rubber band on a bicycle wheel.

I tried beating the tire onto the wheel with a rubber mallet. Does not work for me.

I will take one to a tire shop tomorrow and let them do it.

Image
Tropical Veteran
35th Inf. Reg. "CACTI" 4th I.D. VN
Amateur Radio K5XOM
User avatar
Ryan_Miller
Site Administrator
Site Administrator
Posts: 1668
Joined: Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:00 pm
Location: Kansas

Post by Ryan_Miller »

Ken,

I took mine to a tire shop and watched them do it - it only takes a few minutes.

8)
Ryan Miller
MVPA # 22010
Post Reply