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Xamon Member
Joined: Sep 18, 2012 Posts: 589 Location: South East Saskatchewan
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 2:05 pm Post subject: M38 CDN |
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Well figure I will start one of these.
Got the jeep last fall, it is now in pieces as it had serious issues including the frame. Been working away at it. The frame has been cleaned up, the remains of the rear cross member removed the welded on butchered engine mounts removed etc. It now is waiting to go get sandblasted and some welding to fix the front cross member.
Started taking apart the front axle, bendix joints. The bearing retaining nuts on the driver side were mangled by the PO using a punch to remove them instead of a wrench, had to get creative to get the back one out. I lined up a flat with the keyway and drilled through then split it with a chisel. They needed replacing anyways. however it was apparent this side had not been cared for there was water in the pudding mix and the entire inner shaft is rusted one end to the other.
Then today I opened the differential, scary, it looks like it was filled with pudding, unfortunately it also looks like metallic paint there is so much metal flake in it. The pinion is also chipped all the way around so looks like I am going to need to replace everything in there. Oh and the lovely cereal box gasket did not keep water out of there either.
On the upside I may have found an engine finally. A small farm shop near here was recommended he thinks he has one that was rebuilt about 20 years ago and never installed. Hopefully find out for sure tomorrow.
So many wonderful discoveries, and I haven't even started on the body or the rear axle yet _________________ Carievale Saskatchewan Canada
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Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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It sure is a journey isn't it?! Keep up with the updates, there aren't too many of us Canadians on here. _________________ Jordan
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:10 am Post subject: |
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The parts washer is key. I did most of mine in the small one available from princess auto, but the bigger the better!
I was reading about your diff. Mine simply lifted right out with no effort. Have you tried soaking it in strong penetrating oil for a period of time?
Definitely take lots of pictures. They are invaluable during the process and are great to have even after the project is "done" _________________ Jordan
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Xamon Member
Joined: Sep 18, 2012 Posts: 589 Location: South East Saskatchewan
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 8:08 am Post subject: |
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Went out this morning with the camera.
So here is the diff in question.
As you can see there was water penetration, that's what you get for using a cereal box as a gasket.
Here are my axles, not sure how to clean the large one, that is rust from one end to the other. On the upside I did the shop test with the small one and it passes so I do not need to replace anything there.
There are a couple other shots in my album. I have a lot of other pictures but don't want to take too much space
Anyways dentist this afternoon so no shop time today, but I might be able to get the bits to make a spreader we shall see. _________________ Carievale Saskatchewan Canada
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Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Well back again, no new pics right now maybe tomorrow. Finished my spreader and hooked it up, worked like a charm, cranked it till things just moved and out they came. Cleaned it up and found another problem beyond the chipped pinions. The "case, differential" what I was taught to call the carrier is cracked. so basically I have nothing good inside the differential. "yeeeaaahhh" (that was sarcasm just in case you missed it.) But it is all cleaned up so it can be put aside for now, not sure if I dare to start on the rear end yet. Maybe I will convince the wife to help me put the frame away and drag out the body. _________________ Carievale Saskatchewan Canada
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Xamon Member
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Drug the body into the shop. Things are worse than I thought. almost every seam is swollen with rust. To get it back in shape it need firewall, front pan. passengers rear quarter, drivers rear taillight plate, and the riser at the back of the front floor, plus the dash needs some fixing. I also have to grind down all the posts that got welded to this for a plywood roof, there is a rust hole in the cowl on the drivers side, and there is plate to grind off that was welded to the windshield frame and the body. Wondering if I should toss this and get a replacement. I would post pics but I forgot the camera out in the shop and it is pouring here. _________________ Carievale Saskatchewan Canada
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Xamon wrote: | Drug the body into the shop. Things are worse than I thought. Wondering if I should toss this and get a replacement. |
Hang On.. You're havin some real fun now!! Tear down was the least
satisfying part of my build as is seemed there were more negatives
than positives. Once you start seeing progress the sun shines a little
more often each day. _________________ keep 'em rollin'
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Xamon Member
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Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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My wife has run off with my camera so no pictures today.
Got the tub out of the shop and got the rear axle in. So far it is all good have both springs off, broke one of the U bolts, opened up the drivers side and the diff. No signs of water but the hub is a bit iffy. The grease has that rancid smell to it and is that cake like crackley black. One of the studs was broken as well. but what I can see in the diff looks good no chips or anything visible yet, he used silicone instead of cardboard to seal this one. Have it tipped up draining into my waste bucket right now. hopefully be nice tomorrow and get some pictures and more work done. _________________ Carievale Saskatchewan Canada
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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You'll have to take the diff apart and take a close look at those gears. With all the chipped teeth I see I suspect there's more damage not seen and more metal in the bottom of the housing.
This is the best puller to use.
If you use a jaw type puller make sure you do not use it on the drum. Thake the drum off first and then the hub can tolerate the edge pull of the jaw type pullers. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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