Original Item?

gamillerman · Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject: Original Item?

This was posted for sale on ebay today.......original piece?.....I have see photos of M38's with a recoiless rifle mounted and they either had no windshield or it was folded down. Ebay Item number
150093757708

wesk · Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject:

It could well be a real M38 recoiless mount windshield. No one has ever produced any kit or mod instructions with a parts list for a M38 equipped with a recoiless so we can't prove either way. The ORD # shown in one photo raises my curiosity but it's format is rather odd.

I don't think it's a modified M38 windshield. The wiper mounts on the lower edge are missing as is the vent panel. As you can see in the next photo of a real M38 windshield.

It may be a production DJ3A windshield modified for the recoiless installation.

Here is a photo of what looks like a bonafide field modification of an original M38 windshield. Note the different location of the slot and the added hinges.

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45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

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Bill_F · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:23 am Post subject:

Could it be from a hotchkiss?

wesk · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:02 pm Post subject:

Not with an ORD# on it
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45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

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kiowamtp · Member Joined: Mar 30, 2006 Posts: 19

M606?

*Edit*

After a quick internet search looks exactly like the one on the following link (fourth pic down) and qouted below.

"This archival photo shows a CJ3M with 106mm recoilless rifle, manufactured by VIASA in Zaragoza, Spain"

http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/World/Spain2.html

wesk · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:43 pm Post subject:

That Spanish Viasa built unit would not likely have US Army ORD part numbers on it. But it does look very similar. Perhaps we have a recoilless windshield for a M606 (military CJ3B)
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Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100

Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

Bill_F · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:51 am Post subject:

close but if you look at the m606 windshield frame it does not have the vent. The frame on ebay is taller than a cj3b's


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