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dpcd67 Member
Joined: Nov 25, 2016 Posts: 187 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:42 pm Post subject: Rifle Bracket on M606 Windshield |
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Has anyone ever seen a rifle bracket mounted on an M606 windshield?
Is there room for one? I am planning to restore one and want the rifle bracket on it. Will the M38 angle brackets fit the CJ3b (M606) windshield?
I have looked for pictures; didn't find any. _________________ M38 23100 June 51
M38 34523 Sep 51
M606/CJ3B 1964 Kaiser 57348 118458
M37B1 1963
Willys MB 1944
Ford GPW 1942
Dodge WC63 1943
Dodge Power Wagon WM300 1967
Plymouth Barracuda, 1973, 340 4 barrel
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dpcd67 Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Not from that angle (I do not have my jeep here yet so I have never really looked at the inside). But from your picture, it does seem impossible. Back to the thinking and planning board. Guess it will have to be vertical.
The ROK Army had them when I was in Korea and I admired their gloss OD paint, but I never looked inside.
Maybe if the wiper motors were on top and the bracket covered a bit of the glass.......... _________________ M38 23100 June 51
M38 34523 Sep 51
M606/CJ3B 1964 Kaiser 57348 118458
M37B1 1963
Willys MB 1944
Ford GPW 1942
Dodge WC63 1943
Dodge Power Wagon WM300 1967
Plymouth Barracuda, 1973, 340 4 barrel
All ground up restored by me.
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dpcd67 Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:30 am Post subject: |
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I have that new type in my M37. I just like the WW2 type holder. I could put one of those vertically like the WC Dodges have.
Did they even have the old type in 1960? _________________ M38 23100 June 51
M38 34523 Sep 51
M606/CJ3B 1964 Kaiser 57348 118458
M37B1 1963
Willys MB 1944
Ford GPW 1942
Dodge WC63 1943
Dodge Power Wagon WM300 1967
Plymouth Barracuda, 1973, 340 4 barrel
All ground up restored by me.
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dpcd67 Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Yes I have been studying all the Cj3b and M606 variants on those pages. I have always ignored them all these years but I think I should have paid more attention to them.
I figure that old rifle holder was long gone by the 60s too but it has the cool factor that the two piece ones don't have; if I found even one picture of anyone using it, I would. Might anyway. I don't even have the jeep anyway; still in the previous owner's yard. _________________ M38 23100 June 51
M38 34523 Sep 51
M606/CJ3B 1964 Kaiser 57348 118458
M37B1 1963
Willys MB 1944
Ford GPW 1942
Dodge WC63 1943
Dodge Power Wagon WM300 1967
Plymouth Barracuda, 1973, 340 4 barrel
All ground up restored by me.
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ChuckW Member
Joined: Apr 17, 2005 Posts: 210 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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The true M606's almost all had the swing-out windshield glass with the wipers mounted at the top, don't know it that would give you enough room to mount the rack at the bottom (probably not!). _________________ Chuck W.
Dixie Division MVC #002
1952 M38/M100
M274A2
1964 CJ3B |
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wesk Site Administrator
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:12 am Post subject: |
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Hello Chuck,
The Ventilating Windshield seldom comes up in older Willys & very early Kaiser built jeeps discussions very often, but yes they were an option in the CJ3B and the CJ5/6. We were aware there was a sprinkling of them in the M606 series jeeps but most seemed to pop up on the export units only.
You are the first person I have heard say there were so many of them. Did you see these personally in the military or did you hear this from someone else?
I have a 60 CJ5 with one and they are not very common. I have only seen one for sale once at Iola about 14 years ago.
The M606 service manual supplement never mentions them.
The ventilating windshield replaces the bottom mounted wipers with a pair of inner windshield latches & doublers making mounting of rifle brackets & scabbards very difficult. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?set_albumName=Wes-Knettle&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php |
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dpcd67 Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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Good points; I will re visit this when I get to that point in the restoration, which will be next summer. I'm pretty sure mine has the swing out windshield. From the pictures of it.
Thanks for the info. _________________ M38 23100 June 51
M38 34523 Sep 51
M606/CJ3B 1964 Kaiser 57348 118458
M37B1 1963
Willys MB 1944
Ford GPW 1942
Dodge WC63 1943
Dodge Power Wagon WM300 1967
Plymouth Barracuda, 1973, 340 4 barrel
All ground up restored by me.
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ChuckW Member
Joined: Apr 17, 2005 Posts: 210 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Wes, from my research only. The ventilating windshield kit was available as an option on all year model CJ3B's but was very rarely ordered. If I remember correctly, it was standard on all M606's ordered by one or two (but not all) of the foreign armies, but I don't remember which one. I'll have to try to dig up the information, if I can find it again. _________________ Chuck W.
Dixie Division MVC #002
1952 M38/M100
M274A2
1964 CJ3B |
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