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davem201m38
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:33 am    Post subject: Honest mistake?? Reply with quote

Take a look at this ePay jeep, supposedly a 1955 M38A1 here in the UK. Strange that the vendor will not return my emails, strange also that it's a private listing.

Item number 120139079628

I'll try and post the link below;

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=120139079628&rd=1&rd=1

What do you think??
All the best,
Dave.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CJ painted green with a few stars and an MP50/AB15 antenna mount
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will say the same; CJ with military look
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,
I figure the guy knows he's pulling a con as he won't reply to any of my emails.
Some poor sod is going to buy this. I looked at what little infomation epay allows you to see and I don't think any of thr bidders know what they are looking at.
Cheers,
Dave
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Niclas
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't you report it as a (possible) scam ?

Even I see its not a M38A1

As far as I know they didnt have a tailgate.
and isnīt wrong carb too ?

/N
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davem201m38
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have reported it, but I don't know how much notice of me ePay will take.

The seller still refuses to answer any of my emails so he obviously knows he is selling a fake.

Hopefully some other 'jeep heads' will see it and report it

Caveat emptor as they say.
Dave.
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dongaston70
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Fake Ebay M38A1 Reply with quote

As I read his "thorough" description of his "M38A1" I couldnīt resist a slight smile Cool Cool Cool.
Unfortunately these kind of "mistakes" are the norm regarding our beloved jeeps. How many times have I seen here in Argentina an advertised war era MB Willys only to find it was a much more mundane CJ2A or 3A?
Thatīs what these great forums are for, arenīt they??? Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
By the way, "caveat emptor" is latin for: "let the buyer beware", an antique principle in commerce that states that the buyer alone is responsible for assessing the quality of a purchase before buying"... Confused

Cheers from Patagonia ARGENTINA
Gaston
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davem201m38
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it possible that it might be an M606A1??

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Dave
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Niclas
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

M606A1 & A2 is based on CJ5 so its possible.

think they where mainly sold to the arabic countries

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: M606A2? Reply with quote

The Argentine Army received a small number of them (only 20) in 1968 under MDAP. I have seen some of them and the UK example is certainly not a M606A2 or A3 (the militarized version of the CJ5, the latter one was an A2 with an auxiliary 24V power system kit).
The M606A2 and A3 variants had (as in the M38A1) no rear folding tailgate and did have a cowl mounted battery box with cover (although this is hardly visible in the supplied photos). By the way, although the rear lights are not original, the M606A2 and A3 had the same type as the ones in the M38A1 although mounted outboard, that is to say, externally to the body, and were of the same type left and right (2 rear service, stop and blackout lights) with the blackout stoplight in a separate unit above the right tail light. They also had body steps, and the spare tire and gas can carrier were located as in the M38A1.
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