Joined: Oct 15, 2006 Posts: 27 Location: Andrews Texas
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:19 pm Post subject: Register a Jeep
Guys is their a way to register your vehicle without licence plates? I hate the way they look on my jeep, i want them off but at the same time i would like to drive it when i please. Is their a possible way that you guys can think of. I live in Texas by the way. thanks guys
I believe almost every state requires the plate to be displayed when the vehicle is on public property or on a street or highway. Your best place for that answer is a quick cal to the Texas motor vehicle office. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Joined: Apr 03, 2005 Posts: 271 Location: Chester County, PA
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject:
I seem to recall Texas being the one state where military vehicles did not need a license plate. As Wes says, a call can clear that up. _________________ Bob Collins
1954 M38A1 MD79056
This is the quoted verbage. The operative word to be concerned with here is the Texas DMV "MAY" issue or approve.
Quote:
§ 504.502. CERTAIN EXHIBITION VEHICLES; OFFENSE. (a)
The department shall issue specialty license plates for a passenger
car, truck, motorcycle, or former military vehicle that:
(1) is at least 25 years old, if the vehicle is a
passenger car, truck, or motorcycle;
(2) is a collector's item;
(3) is used exclusively for exhibitions, club
activities, parades, and other functions of public interest and is
not used for regular transportation; and
(4) does not carry advertising.
(b) The license plates must include the words "Antique
Auto," "Antique Truck," "Antique Motorcycle," or "Military
Vehicle," as appropriate.
(c) A person eligible for the license plates may instead use
license plates issued by this state in the same year as the model
year of the vehicle and approved by the department, provided that a
passenger car must bear passenger car or truck license plates and a
truck must bear passenger car or truck license plates. The
department may require attachment of a registration insignia to the
license plate in a manner that does not affect the display of
information originally on the license plate.
(d) License plates issued or approved under this section
expire on the fifth anniversary of the date of issuance or approval.
(e) The fee for issuance or approval of license plates under
this section is:
(1) $10 for each year or portion of a year remaining in
the five-year registration period if the vehicle was manufactured
in 1921 or later; or
(2) $8 for each year or portion of a year remaining in
the five-year registration period if the vehicle was manufactured
before 1921.
(f) The department may exempt a former military vehicle from
the requirement to display a license plate or registration insignia
if the exemption is necessary to maintain the vehicle's accurate
military markings. The department may approve an alternative
registration insignia that is compatible with the vehicle's
original markings.
(g) A person entitled to specialty license plates or to
department approval under this section may register the vehicle
without payment of any fees paid for or at the time of registration
except the fee for the license plate. An owner of a vehicle
registered under this subsection who violates this section commits
an offense. An offense under this section is a misdemeanor
punishable by a fine of not less than $5 or more than $200.
(h) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a vehicle
issued license plates under Subsection (a) shall be required to
attach and display only one license plate on the rear of the
vehicle.
(i) In this section, "former military vehicle" means a
vehicle, including a trailer, regardless of the vehicle's size,
weight, or year of manufacture, that:
(1) was manufactured for use in any country's military
forces; and
(2) is maintained to represent its military design and
markings accurately.
(j) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution of an
offense under this section that at the time of the offense the
vehicle was en route to or from a location for the purpose of
routine maintenance of the vehicle.
I would then assume once you have approval to operate without the plate you must carry the approval in your vehicle. Keep in mind that this means you will be more apt to get pulled over for a paperwork check.
My personal preference would be to use plates on the open road and when displaying the vehicle or parading it then hide the plates under the seat and have my plateless operation approval paperwork in the glove box. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
I drilled two 1/4" holes in the jerry can holder and mounted a plate there. You can use 1/4x20 carriage bolts (ones with the round head) and 1/4x20 wing nuts with lock washers and when you get to a show easily take them off...
I leave mine on as I have vanity plates here in OK "CDN M38" so I get no problems other than those that want to look at the jeep...
I also run Lability and comprehensive insurance... Comprehensive covers the jeep in the event it is in the garage next tornado comes by. I will at least get paid to take it to the scrap heap....
Joined: Oct 15, 2006 Posts: 27 Location: Andrews Texas
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject:
na, no license plate for me! I live in a small town of 12,000 people and everyone knows EVERYBODY lol so it shouldn't take long for them to get used to it. Wesk I do appreciate this, you guys go the extra mile here and i appreciate it.
Justen I did this a few months ago.
But in able not to have to display plates it has to be registered as a "former militray vehicle" which has limitations on how it can be driven. Texas uses 6 digits, alpha characters and numerals as a registration number. If you go with the former military vehicle route and use hood numbers as the registration number, then the last 6 digits of your hood number represent the Texas registration number. That is if the number you choose is not already registered. If it is you will need to come up with another one.
I was also told by the department that the militray Unit Markings can be used as the registration # .
I have not been stopped by the locals. most of them have seen me in the local parades. _________________ Tropical Veteran
35th Inf. Reg. "CACTI" 4th I.D. VN
Amateur Radio K5XOM
Justen,
Here's two clauses concerning limitations of the vehicle copied from the House Bill 1225 which is in the same info that Wes posted.
(1) the vehicle is used only for exhibitions, club activities, parades, and other functions of public interest and will not be used for regular transportation; and
(2) the owner of the vehicle files with the Department a sworn affidavit, signed by the owner, stating that the vehicle is a collector's item and will be used solely for the purposes listed in Subdivision (1) of this subsection
Thanks Wes for finding that information I thought I had copied it before but couldn't find it.
I also didn't read your post entirely before I went looking again for the statute.
You do have a sensible thought about displaying plates so as not to
throw a flag out there to make officer suspicious.
Their daily activity particularly includes looking at vehicles for valid liscense plates, inspection stickers on windshields and seat belt compliance. _________________ Tropical Veteran
35th Inf. Reg. "CACTI" 4th I.D. VN
Amateur Radio K5XOM
I have found it also is a better way to go when you operate out of state and also makes it easier for the jeep to be spotted sooner if it is reported stolen. _________________ Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Yes that makes sense. A plate really doesn't take that much away from the vehicles status as a military vehicle.
However I opted not to get a plate, but can go back and apply for one when ever.
And I guess it depends on police departments in different towns and cities as to how relaxed they can be on the law as far as the limitations on driving the vehicle goes.
Every now and then I take the vehicle for a spin through town, most of the time I don't see any officers. Except for one of those times an officer was behind me and and pulled around me on the left, I suppose to check out to see if I had a number displayed on the hood cause there weren't any plates on the rear.
As he drove pass me, I saw him look at my hood, He went on down the street and pulled into his station. I went on about my business.
Ken _________________ Tropical Veteran
35th Inf. Reg. "CACTI" 4th I.D. VN
Amateur Radio K5XOM
Joined: Apr 14, 2005 Posts: 196 Location: Van Buren, Arkansas
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject:
Our M38 came with two holes drilled in the Jerrycan
mount for the plate, and had two flat head spaner-type
bolts therein, to keep from marring the can.
Here in Darkest Arkansas, Governor Huckabee
resisted a push for front plates, after finding out that
the pusher's brother-in-law or other family outlaw was
the agent for the plate manufacturer. Thanks, Huck!
I don't know that I've ever had a problem with the
plate on the back, as I cannot see it when driving the
vehicle. Perhaps it's a problem on the front?
The plate is easy to remove when the vehicle is on
display, but most folks I've seen don't bother, nor do
the judges count off for it. However, what's minor to
some is major to others, and I hope it can work out
OK for ya'll.
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