What year?????

north-shore · Post by **north-shore** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:10 am

Hi

A Guy want to give me a willys jeep frame and motor transmission et différentiel

How could i know the year

the frame have the little plate like ww2 for holding the bumper

thx

Eric

Post by **wesk** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:55 am

If it has the front bumper gussets then it's MB or CJ2A. MB/GPW (WWII) has the machine gun support plate and there's no steering bellcrank on the front crossmember since it was mounted on top of the front axle. The MB/GPW had the frame serial number on the inside of the left front frame rail just nehind the bumper for the MB and on top of the left front frame rail just ahead of the brake master cylinder on the GPW. The early CJ2A had a frame serial tag on the outside of the left front frame rail just behind the bumper. Based on this info can you tell us which frame you have?

north-shore · Post by **north-shore** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:16 pm

Hi

I know i dont have the plate for the machine gun i will have the frame next week at home i could see better
What left for the body part or the hood wit the logo willys and he have a grill and have the big round light like my m38 but he dont know if this is original that what he have left and the gaz tank have a small outlet for fuel and i didn't see a protecting gard for the transmission

And no plate for the frame serial number on the inside of the left front frame rail just nehind the bumper

For me that look civil but for free i can't complaint and i dont have a motor for my m38 and now yes

hop is the same flat head

i dont know if that help you

thx

Eric

north-shore · Post by **north-shore** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:49 pm

Hi

here is som pic hope you will be hable to give me a years

TomM · Post by **TomM** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:19 pm

The frame has bumper gussets indicating it is a '42-45MB or 45-'48 CJ2A

Is the steering bellcrank pivot welded to the front cross member (CJ2A) or mounted on the front differential housing (MB)?

The transmission was originally a column shift CJ2A style from '45, early '46.

The engine has early WWII venting road-draft tube and no PCV on the intake manifold (I dont know if these were ever used in CJ's) . What is the casting # of the block?

The waterpump has an M38 style bypass hose on the top.

The head 640161 was used on CJ2A, CJ38 and I believe also the M38. An M38 head would have a hole and pipe fitting on the front to mate to the waterpump hose.

Tom

Post by **wesk** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:50 pm

The M38 head is an 800376 casting. The tranny could also be from a Willys util;ity or pickup as the road draft tube may also be from an early Willys.

Eric,
We need complete photos of the rear half of the frame and closeup of engine lower right center side for casting number.

north-shore · Post by **north-shore** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:14 am

Hi

Here is som new pic

north-shore · Post by **north-shore** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:20 pm

Hi,

Anyone have a clue

and anyone have this part my mom drop my cab when she came to see me

north-shore · Post by **north-shore** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:23 am

Hi Wesk

If that pic of the motor help you to find the date

for the rear member i dont have it yet

Post by **wesk** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:39 am

I'd say about a 1947 or 48 CJ2A. It would help to know the serial number of the engine. It would be on the small flat area just above the water pump.

north-shore · Post by **north-shore** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:02 pm

Hi Wesk,

Here the number U100242

Post by **wesk** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:34 pm

That engine was original to a Utility station wagon. That explains the side shift tranny that came with it.

north-shore · Post by **north-shore** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:40 am

Hi

OK and tha is the same motor for gasket and rebuilt kit

it have a plastic timing gear whit this do you know the year

Thx

Eric

Post by **wesk** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:40 am

Yes the same engine. You would have to ask the folks on the Willys Tech board who have more data available on the Willys Pick-up and Wagons. It will be in the 1947 to 1951 range for the engine.

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Wil ... d=27397725

ocwd · Post by **ocwd** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:44 am

North-Shore,

I have a few carb bases laying around for that WO carb. Do you have any M38 parts to trade? Is there any information stamped on the bottom of that broken carb base?

Dave

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