kinda baffeled

RichJohnson · Post by **RichJohnson** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 7:35 pm

In the recent MVM in the MUTT article the author stated that the M151 series had a longer mikitary life span than the Jeep series.
I thought that the MC used m38a1s into the 70s. As I count that makes over 30 years. 41-7#.
He claimed the mutt served alongside the HMMWV in the 91 gulf war. I know for a fact that special ops used a few in 91 but I have never heard of them in regular service in the gulf war. As I have been told I think Panama was the last engagement the Mutt saw regular service in.
I have nothing against mutts and may get one some day, but I think the author is wrong.
I have seen a mutt or two hanging around MCAS miramar in squadron service. I have pics of it. It looks like it was left over from the Navy as Miramar was NAS before the late 90s. But thats not regular service.

Post by **wesk** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:41 am

Rich,
He is incorrect if he is using 1991 as a benchmark for the M151. 1959 thru 1991 = 32 years. The last M38A1 I saw show up at our DRMO in Ellsworth AFB SD before I retired was 1988 and that gives the M38A1 a military lifespan of at least 1952 thru 1988 = 36 years.

RichJohnson · Post by **RichJohnson** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:35 am

Ya no kiddin, I thought he was off, wow I didnt know the AF had A1s hanging around that long.
If all jeeps are included the Jeep has had a much longer military life than the mutt, but that may change, there are a few thousand out there stored at barstow im told. The mutt may still be around but its not in regular service. A few special ops in 1991 doesnt count in my book. He also claimed that mutts are in service more elsware in the world than jeeps, I think hes wrong there too.
Long live the Jeep.

Post by **wesk** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:06 am

When you expose both the M38A1 and the M151 to the elements (especially salt air and water) the A1 will outlive the 151 or at least you'll still have a A1 frame when the 151 unitized floor pan and structural base is junk.