M38A1 series owner we need your help with this frame survey.

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Mine is a Dutch built jeep, but the number also present on the frame (left front)
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All of those plates were removed before I got the jeep.Is it etched on the frame anywhere?
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No. The two screw on plates are the only serials Willys put on the body/chassis. The engine serial was unrelated to the chassis.body serial.
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Any idea what the number 8487 on the title would refer to? Thanks Wes
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Could be anything. The 55's started around MD73XXX and went through about MD85XXX so your number may be missing the first or last digit.

IE: MD78487 (Jan 55) or MD8487X (May 55)
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Thanks for the info.
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Check with the Agency that issued the title and ask if they can confirm the serial from the original title application?
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Wes, in addition to the information I emailed you, I do have a hinged grill as well, so the bolt holes are in use. Let me know if you need anymore information.

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Norseman,

Nekaf does not seem to have built M38A1's in the following series:
166xx/169xx; 172xx; 183xx/190xx; 193xx.
I have already collected data of more than 2100 Nekafs from original government auction-catalogs and have not found any serial numbers that fit in those series.

So I think you are right about your M38A1 being Danish production.

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I can Not see your pictures in post # 1

Is there a trick to this or an update to view them?

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Dear Norseman,

Dutch M38A1's have a frame number on the left side that starts with MD followed by the serial number (5 digits).
Danish M38A1's have a frame number on the left side that starts with the prefix 57144 followed by the serial number (5 digits). The frame is also marked with JEEP M38A1 directly above the framenumber.
The serial numbers of the Dutch and Danish M38a1's that I found do not seem to conflict but complement each other.


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Hi Norseman,

I hope you still own that M38A1 after so many years, for I finally got the answer to the question if your M38A1 is a Nekaf/Van Twist M38A1 from Holland or a Nordisk Diesel M38A1 from Copenhagen, Denmark.

Your serial number is 100% one of the 400 M38A1's assembled by Nordisk Diesel in 1961. Just have a look at the serial number on the frame (drivers side) and it will show the following text:
JEEP M38 A1
57144 18615

Nekaf-jeeps do only have a MD1**** serial number on the frame (so, without the text JEEP M38 A1 and 57144)
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Frame Style as per request.

Post by lesk »

Hi Wesk....as per my original post many months ago....I have a 1967 M38A1 CDN2 Serial/frame number 97418 and CFR number of 67-08171. I have what you term as an "Late-intermediate frame with 6 holes with welded nuts" with the frame number stamped on top of the frame-front.
Tried to post images again but got stymied.

Hope this helps,

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