Clutch and brake pedals

Phil4280 · Post by **Phil4280** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:02 pm

One thing that I have noticed while trolling through M38 and M38A1 photos that there is a fairly common occourence of getting the clutch and brake pedals mixed up.

Correct me if i am wrong but should not the raised lips on the pedal pads be closes to each other?

An exaple of the wrong way is shown in the photos of that M38 prison jeep currently listed in the forsale section.

Phil...

Bretto · Post by **Bretto** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:37 pm

I thought the lips go inward toward the steering tube as far as I know. Could be wrong.

evanso1975 · Post by **evanso1975** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:28 pm

I thought the lips go inward toward the steering tube as far as I know.

Bretto is correct. Page 125 of Ryan's reference guide. The "prison jeep" is wrong.

Owen.

circleburner12 · Post by **circleburner12** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:17 pm

is there a difference in the brake and clutch pedal or the two the same? thxs

Phil4280 · Post by **Phil4280** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:38 pm

Well thats what I said... but I guess the way to describe it best is:-

the raised lip on the clutch pedal is on the right hand side of the pad where the brake pedal its on the left hand side of the pad.

Phil...

TomM · Post by **TomM** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:46 pm

Circle,
clutch and brake pedals are different. Also M38 are different from M38A1.

circleburner12 · Post by **circleburner12** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:16 pm

thanks tomM, when i took them off of my a1, i failed to mark which one was the brake or clutch. when i get to that point of installing them i'll see if i can figure out which one is which. thxs

wilfreeman · Post by **wilfreeman** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:18 pm

Uh-oh! We'll probably need pics now! This throws a monkey wrench in the whole mess.

JAM · Post by **JAM** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:46 pm

If the pedals of the M38 are the same as the CJ3A, here are the dimensions and position of the lips.

http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... ght=#23168

Upturned lips on the side closest to the steering column and down on opposite ends.
The brake pedal is wider than the clutch pedal, and the position of the clutch shaft is not in the center of the pedal.

TomM · Post by **TomM** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:28 am

We will need to double check CJ3A vs M38 dimensions per the link to home made pads and the dimensions. My brake is a replacement and is the same as the clutch. Both are narrow. If you run a wide brake pedal it interferes from you lifting your foot off the accelerator.
Worst case your foot gets stuck under the edge of the brake pedal.

Cacti_Ken · Post by **Cacti_Ken** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:13 pm

I have a brake pedal that is shorter or narrower in width than the clutch pedal. Makes it easier to get foot on the gas pedal.