M38 fender pics

Bretto · Post by **Bretto** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:06 pm

I found an excellent image of the drivers fender (thanks Wes) and surprisingly most of all my holes match according to it. Any one have have one similar of the pass side? Also, are there supposed to be 2 holes on the top of the fender for 2 wire clips for the wire that goes to the BO light. I think I see 2. I have 2 for a total of 7 on the surface of the fender. 3 for BO unit, 2 for the hood hold down and hopefully 2 for the wire.

djalohr · Post by **djalohr** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:22 pm

this is beautiful, thank you WES

Kendall · Post by **Kendall** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:04 pm

I compared this photo to my two M38s (1951 and 1952). Both had holes labeled 11 and 12, but only the 1952 has the holes labeled 8, 9, and 10.
Any explanation?
Kendall

Bretto · Post by **Bretto** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:43 pm

Funny how those you listed have no description. My '51 has all that you mentioned.

evanso1975 · Post by **evanso1975** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:18 pm

From Ryan's reference guide, the unidentified holes in that picture are listed as follows:

8 - unknown
9 - unkown, usually plugged
10 - unkown
11 - manufacturer's jig
12 - manufacturer's jig

Bretto: if you can get to a copy of this guide, there's a photo on page 150 identifying the holes in the passenger fender. The holes in the top of both fenders are shown too. And yes, you should have 7 in the top of the driver's fender (2 wire clips).

Owen.

RICKG · Post by **RICKG** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:11 pm

PASS SIDE.

Post by **wesk** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:35 am

Rick,
That's a late right fender. Early does not have the indent lower rear for the power plant heater kit.

Here's the rest of my M38 fender photos
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php

RICKG · Post by **RICKG** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:38 am

wesk wrote:Rick,
That's a late right fender

I wondered about that..I'm 51986, do you have an idea
where the later change occured? I suppose accident or
other molestation led to my fender change.

Post by **wesk** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:06 am

It was not a serialized change by part number in the ORD parts manuals.

It was a drawing change only.

The Dec 52 Powerplant Heater Kit instructions address the late vs early fenders and how to modify the early fenders. It implies that the change occurs around Jan 52 (about MC44XXX).

TomM · Post by **TomM** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:54 pm

Rick,
Just FYI; your jeep was one of the first 102 unit run s/n 51887-51988 assembled at the beginning of the transition from open to closed bellhousing/late vent system witht the late starter/generator/bellhousing/vent lines.
My # 51898 also has the late fender but I doubt this is related to the 102 unit pilot run.

After the 102 unit run - with yours nearly last, Willys went back to manufacturing the "early" setups until the full transition to the later venting systems at #53262.

Tom

RICKG · Post by **RICKG** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:08 pm

Thx, Wes & Tom. Nice to have real SNs to refer to..