Anti-squeak

timjuhl · Post by **timjuhl** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:47 am

What was the original material used for the anti-squeak strip between the fenders and the cowling? Is there a more modern material that you would recommend?

Tim

OKCM38CDN · Post by **OKCM38CDN** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:52 am

I used cotton military belt material... same stuff they use to hold their pants up with...

You can buy it a mass of colors (I needed Blue) and comes in lengths up to 54"...

I used a hole punch from Harbor frieght to punch the holes in it and lined up well...

If you are a retired GI or know one you can get it from the base clothing sales store, as a belt...

Hope this helps...

daleric · Post by **daleric** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:41 am

I'm interested in this as well. Wouldn't the plain belt material have a tendency to absorb and hold water? I know when I took my fenders off a few weeks ago the material was about the same with as belt material and definitely had fibers in it but was also sticky and black like it had some sort of caulking or water proofing property to it as well.

Richard

OKCM38CDN · Post by **OKCM38CDN** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:04 am

It will hold some water, but here in Oklahoma it dries super fast and is not a worry...

I suppose you could soak it in oil or some such treatment...

It is not exposed to the underside of the fender where most of the water is, it soaks it up when it rains and comes off the cowl...

Just my thoughts...

evanso1975 · Post by **evanso1975** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:26 am

Not sure if this helps, but the anti-squeak on my WW2 CMP Chevy (another project I still need to get round to

) was comprised of a "rubberised" cloth material.

Owen.

timjuhl · Post by **timjuhl** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:08 pm

I've heard complaints that straight cotton fabric tends to hold water and under certain circumstances could be a starting point for rust. I was considering a strip of seatbelt webbing. It's nylon, slippery and would not soak up water. Plus I have about 100 feet of it in brown

Another possibility is one of the baffle materials used with aircraft. It is basically a coarsely woven, large stranded cotton that is impregnated with neoprene rubber. It would resist water for the most part. That said, I'm not sure it would work any better than seatbelt material. I want to stay with a material no more than 1/16th of an inch, like the original.

Willys never intended for these Jeeps to be around 60 years after they were built so I don't think they worried too much about the long term use issues with anti-squeek.

Tim

Bretto · Post by **Bretto** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:24 pm

Tim
I made a 'kit' out of some 060 EDPM that is has a nylon weave. I got it from a nice gent Tim aka athawk11. I may still have some if you interested. Its a tad less that 1/16" which makes it nice and its real flexible but just the right firmness. Measures .057" or 1.45 mm.
It was thin enough that I even put some at the grill/fender seam.
Made in the USA even!
http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb3 ... 687-86.jpg
Brett

daleric · Post by **daleric** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:37 pm

OKCM38CDN wrote:I used cotton military belt material... same stuff they use to hold their pants up with...

You can buy it a mass of colors (I needed Blue) and comes in lengths up to 54"...

I used a hole punch from Harbor frieght to punch the holes in it and lined up well...

If you are a retired GI or know one you can get it from the base clothing sales store, as a belt...

Hope this helps...

Understand where you're coming from completely Hal. I live in south east AL where even the humidity in the air during the summer on most days would be enough to have a tendency to "soak" a plain material like that. Saturating in oil before installing might work fine though. I don't have any seat belt material like what Bill describes either. However, Tractor Supply may have a farm type belting that may be thin enough to try. I'll have to look. If so, that would be a rubberized fabric that would be very moisture resistant.

circleburner12 · Post by **circleburner12** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:37 pm

i know people that has used velcro, the soft side.

jimm · Post by **jimm** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:37 pm

McMaster-Carr has .075" thick nylon fabric strips in either 3/4" or 1" wide, 37.5' long, P/Ns 87425K75 or 87425K76.
It's also available in .019" thick, but that seems too thin.

evanso1975 · Post by **evanso1975** » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:24 am

Stumbled across this post on the "G":
http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=48847

Looks like the original material was an asphalt-impregnated webbing.

Also, this got me thinking. Did the M38 have the anti-squeak between the fender and grille (as shown on RonF's kit)? I could only find it listed twice in the parts manual:

Lower (fender to side step?)
Upper (fender to cowl?)

Any thoughts?

Owen.

chuck · Post by **chuck** » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:50 am

Anyone tried using belt webbing soaked in canvak?

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