Starter motor question

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Starter motor question

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Hi guys,

I took out the starter motor om my 43 Willys.
Outside of the benix is a return spring which is held in position by a copper bushing (?). This bushing is screwed on, links treads.
My question is this: Is this bushing supposed to be screwed on until it stops?
Is it supposed to be locked in any way?

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That bushing and the threaded tube are part of the Bendix drive and were not meant to be dis-assembled and re-assembled. The bushing is threaded all the way on then the edge of the threaded tube is staked with a punch and hammer on both sides so it can't back off. It's real purpose is a travel stop.

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Thanks a lot Wes.
It was loose when I took it off. I've got a reconditioned starter on the way. Just curious, and nobody (else) could answer my question.

Another one; the oil filler tube is just placed in the hole in the engine without any gasket of any kind? I have some oil spill/leakage in that area.
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Normally with an unworn tube there would be a tight enough fit that no gasket or seal was necessary unless rings were heavily worn and crankcase pressures were unusually high causing foaming of the oil or the sump was overserviced causing foaming of the oil.

The fixes are:

1-get a new tube.
2-Get a beading tool and lightly bead the tube a little at a time until you attain a hard push fit.
3-Build up the surface of the tube with an epoxy coating until it fits snugly again.
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It's not a big issue, I just noticed it after I removed the generator (needs new brushes). Most of the spill is old anyway. Once the generator was out, i was tempted to take out the starter as well. Starter has been tired since i bought the car, so a new one is in the mail.
I think maybe a piece of thin rubber hose of some kind around the filler should do the trick.
Thanks Wes.
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That's not a good idea. Eventually the thin rubber will work it's way down into the pan. When it gets there you then run the risk that it gets sucked into the oil pickup screen and voila, No oil pressure.

Beading the tube is the smart answer.
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