Cadmium Hardware

Thunderbird712 · Post by **Thunderbird712** » Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:10 pm

Was the hardware that was Cad plated throughout the jeep typically the yellow/gold Cad plated, silver Cad plated, or was it a mix. I get that the hardware was either zinc plated or Cad I was just curious about the Cad.

TomM · Post by **TomM** » Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:16 pm

I do not have a complete answer for you but the 1/4-20 bolts that I used were In sealed boxes from the early 1950's. All of the contents appear to be silvercad

Thunderbird712 · Post by **Thunderbird712** » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:07 pm

Thanks. I am working on the frame right now so I am trying to get the correct look with the hardware. I can get the correct hardware like the huglock/stop nuts and other hardware from Aircraft spruce in the yellow cad. I don't want to use all yellow cad if the plain cad was the standard more so. I do know some stuff was the yellow. Will have to try and figure out if I want to invest in a DIY plating kit or look for a local plating company. I want to stay away from the zinc as I read a few articles/websites that say Cad has better corrosion resistance. Will just have to continue looking into it.

Xamon · Post by **Xamon** » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:48 pm

they used a lot of suppliers so just as likely they had both. may have been one or both at the factory and one or both at the depots. Just my guess mind you

4x4M38 · Post by **4x4M38** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:02 pm

May be a silly question but I've seen lots of examples both ways on restorations.

Paint the cad hardware, bolts, nuts, etc., or not?

Tks,
Brian

TomM · Post by **TomM** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:29 pm

Factory photo evidence of production/inspected vehicles shows that exterior body hardware eventually had been painted before transport from the factory.

Factory photo evidence of some (not all) un-inspected or prototype or dressed up press vehicles had unpainted body hardware.

I have not seen enough photos of the production rolling chassis to determine if/when/how much chassis painting took place before the body drop. Others will have plenty to comment and possibly others will have photos to help.

WWII photos of the production line are not necessarily useful but are often cited as proof that the chassis received an overall OD coat.

Thunderbird712 · Post by **Thunderbird712** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:21 pm

Do you have any of the production/inspection photos you mentioned or at least a location to point me to? I have not seen any M38A1 production photos here or doing a Google search that show painted hardware. The ones I have seen show unpainted hardware or jeeps long into there service and post 24087 repainting. I do have the photos of the A1 being crated that show unpainted hardware. To not though this is most likely jeep going to a foreign country due to the lack of a hood number so this may not be a good reference point.

TomM · Post by **TomM** » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:05 pm

Sorry - my references were with regard to the M38 not the A1.
M38A1 = I do not have any factory production photos
M38 = check out the photo gallery:
Historic photos page 7 - M38 rubber 1 Luciano and 02 Luciano
Members album page 4 - willys motors

I have a public relations shot of an A1 that is obviously a glamor photo with "Willys" stenciled on the hood. I'll try to post it this weekend.

Thunderbird712 · Post by **Thunderbird712** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:07 am

No problem. I don't see why Willys would change that process between jeep models. No proof of that but just an assumption.

4x4M38 · Post by **4x4M38** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:40 am

Wow.
Pick a photo and a date.

This one shows the Dzus fasteners on the instrument panel are painted, but all of the other hardware is not, i.e., the circuit breaker and wire clip, dash and high/low beam light screws, and all the dash plate rivets are not painted. Nor are the windshield to cowl rubber fasteners.

Some of the others show the dash plate rivets not painted. A couple of the factory photos show unpainted items, but as Wes mentioned, they may have been painted at a later date.

Brian