I came across a restored 1950 M38 with a rear pto? Would this have been original to the vehicle?
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M38 with a rear pto?
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From the factory? No.
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It's possible and it's just as possible that a post military civilian owner added it.
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I have been wrenching on these jeeps since 1970 and today I still cannot say with 100% accuracy that any part was there originally from the factory.
Only a handful of M38's came from Willys with a PTO and winch. Those that did have a dash model weight and serial plate with the phrase w/winch on it.
Over the last 53 years (over a half century) there has been thousands of opportunities for thousands of civilian owners to add PTO's to their surplus M38's for any of a dozen purposes.

This US M38 came without a winch & PTO.

A US Built M38 that came from Willys with a winch & PTO would have had this plate.
Many folks agree that M38 CDN's all had winches & PTO's but that they were added in the field by the Canadian Military.
Yet look at this M38 CDN Plate:

Only a handful of M38's came from Willys with a PTO and winch. Those that did have a dash model weight and serial plate with the phrase w/winch on it.
Over the last 53 years (over a half century) there has been thousands of opportunities for thousands of civilian owners to add PTO's to their surplus M38's for any of a dozen purposes.

This US M38 came without a winch & PTO.

A US Built M38 that came from Willys with a winch & PTO would have had this plate.
Many folks agree that M38 CDN's all had winches & PTO's but that they were added in the field by the Canadian Military.
Yet look at this M38 CDN Plate:

Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php