Original Item?

gamillerman · Post by **gamillerman** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:31 pm

This was posted for sale on ebay today.......original piece?.....I have see photos of M38's with a recoiless rifle mounted and they either had no windshield or it was folded down. Ebay Item number
150093757708

Post by **wesk** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:49 pm

It could well be a real M38 recoiless mount windshield. No one has ever produced any kit or mod instructions with a parts list for a M38 equipped with a recoiless so we can't prove either way. The ORD # shown in one photo raises my curiosity but it's format is rather odd.

I don't think it's a modified M38 windshield. The wiper mounts on the lower edge are missing as is the vent panel. As you can see in the next photo of a real M38 windshield.

It may be a production DJ3A windshield modified for the recoiless installation.

Here is a photo of what looks like a bonafide field modification of an original M38 windshield. Note the different location of the slot and the added hinges.

Bill_F · Post by **Bill_F** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:23 am

Could it be from a hotchkiss?

Post by **wesk** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:02 pm

Not with an ORD# on it

kiowamtp · Post by **kiowamtp** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:03 pm

M606?

*Edit*

After a quick internet search looks exactly like the one on the following link (fourth pic down) and qouted below.

"This archival photo shows a CJ3M with 106mm recoilless rifle, manufactured by VIASA in Zaragoza, Spain"

http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/World/Spain2.html

Post by **wesk** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:43 pm

That Spanish Viasa built unit would not likely have US Army ORD part numbers on it. But it does look very similar. Perhaps we have a recoilless windshield for a M606 (military CJ3B)

Bill_F · Post by **Bill_F** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:51 am

close but if you look at the m606 windshield frame it does not have the vent. The frame on ebay is taller than a cj3b's