New shoes for baby.

Discussion topics on Willys Overland M series vehicles

Moderators: TomM, Moderator, wesk

Post Reply
User avatar
mdainsd
Member
Posts: 446
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:00 pm

New shoes for baby.

Post by mdainsd »

Time for new tires for one of the M38s. This time around I have decided to try the Coker "Firestone" Radial version of the 7.00-16 NDCC (31-7R16).

Radials supposedly should not be run with inner tubes, or so I have been lead to believe. So while the rims are bare for painting I will try a coating to seal all the rivet holes where the center is riveted to the rim. Has anyone tried this?

I also think the 117mph rating is much more in tune with the ol' 38, LOL.

Thoughts?
'52 Dodge M37, '42 GPW, '48 FrankenJeep CJ2A/M38, '50 CJV-35(U), '51 M38, '42 WC-57 Command Car, '44 WC-51 Weapons , (2) M1941 Sperry 60" Anti-Aircraft Searchlights, John Deere M-gator, '44 White M3A1 Scout Car
User avatar
STXM38A1
Member
Posts: 139
Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:00 pm
Location: Fair Oaks Ranch, Texas

Post by STXM38A1 »

Please post a link to the NDCC radials.
Thanks.
Warren
M38A1 12/54 MD 78343

PHOTO ALBUM:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
User avatar
mdainsd
Member
Posts: 446
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:00 pm

Post by mdainsd »

'52 Dodge M37, '42 GPW, '48 FrankenJeep CJ2A/M38, '50 CJV-35(U), '51 M38, '42 WC-57 Command Car, '44 WC-51 Weapons , (2) M1941 Sperry 60" Anti-Aircraft Searchlights, John Deere M-gator, '44 White M3A1 Scout Car
User avatar
OKCM38CDN
Member
Posts: 530
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:00 pm
Location: Del City, OK

Post by OKCM38CDN »

I have those on my M-38 / M-100 and M-38A1 and run tubes in all of them with no problems... You are not going to get to speeds where tubes will hurt you... I also run the Flaps in the M-38 and 100...

My only problem was finding a tire dealer that knew how to deal with tubes when putting them on...
Hal, KB1ZQ
TSGT, USAF (Ret)
1952 M-38 CDN CAR 52-31313
1952 M-100 Strick #104
1951 Willys Wagon (For Sale)
1954 Willys M38A1 201001205
Tornado Alley
Del City, OK
User avatar
mdainsd
Member
Posts: 446
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:00 pm

Post by mdainsd »

Well my local "llantas" store does them for me no problems, so got that covered.

I am hoping for longer life. I know that they will be much better riding especially when cold.
'52 Dodge M37, '42 GPW, '48 FrankenJeep CJ2A/M38, '50 CJV-35(U), '51 M38, '42 WC-57 Command Car, '44 WC-51 Weapons , (2) M1941 Sperry 60" Anti-Aircraft Searchlights, John Deere M-gator, '44 White M3A1 Scout Car
User avatar
STXM38A1
Member
Posts: 139
Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:00 pm
Location: Fair Oaks Ranch, Texas

Post by STXM38A1 »

If your main purpose in purchasing the Coker 'Firestone' NDCC #676467 is to get RADIAL tires, you may want to do further research.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/cok-676467
Warren
M38A1 12/54 MD 78343

PHOTO ALBUM:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
User avatar
mdainsd
Member
Posts: 446
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:00 pm

Post by mdainsd »

Very interesting and confusing. Same part number but described as a bias ply and carries a bias ply size nomenclature, where as the ones I bought carry a radial nomenclature. I was assured they are radials, and I have free return on them so we will see.

Ugg!
'52 Dodge M37, '42 GPW, '48 FrankenJeep CJ2A/M38, '50 CJV-35(U), '51 M38, '42 WC-57 Command Car, '44 WC-51 Weapons , (2) M1941 Sperry 60" Anti-Aircraft Searchlights, John Deere M-gator, '44 White M3A1 Scout Car
User avatar
wilfreeman
Member
Posts: 1079
Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:00 pm
Location: Richburg, SC
Contact:

Post by wilfreeman »

First I've heard of radial NDCCs. Pretty sure they are bias ply, as the price would probably in the $200 range if they made them. The $154 Firestone price has been the same for awhile now.
Matt
1953 M38a1
1964 USMC M38a1
'51 USMC M100 trailer, '54 M100 trailer, '90 M101a1 trailer
Http://wilfreeman.wordpress.com (M38a1 build blog)
http://m38a1usmc.wordpress.com (USMC M38a1 rebuild blog)
User avatar
OKCM38CDN
Member
Posts: 530
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:00 pm
Location: Del City, OK

Post by OKCM38CDN »

The Coker tires for $154 are BIAS PLY tires... I have 11 of them purchased in lots since 2005...
Hal, KB1ZQ
TSGT, USAF (Ret)
1952 M-38 CDN CAR 52-31313
1952 M-100 Strick #104
1951 Willys Wagon (For Sale)
1954 Willys M38A1 201001205
Tornado Alley
Del City, OK
User avatar
mdainsd
Member
Posts: 446
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:00 pm

Post by mdainsd »

You are right. The seller was confused about it too. A few calls to Coker verified they are bias ply. I'll live with them, just thought radials would be an improvement. *sigh
'52 Dodge M37, '42 GPW, '48 FrankenJeep CJ2A/M38, '50 CJV-35(U), '51 M38, '42 WC-57 Command Car, '44 WC-51 Weapons , (2) M1941 Sperry 60" Anti-Aircraft Searchlights, John Deere M-gator, '44 White M3A1 Scout Car
User avatar
dpcd67
Member
Posts: 187
Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:00 pm
Location: Iowa

Post by dpcd67 »

There are no radial NDCC tires. But if there were, then you can run them with radial tubes, which they do make. The confusion comes in because when radial tires first came out, they flexed more than the common bias ply tires and quickly caused the tubes to fail. That has been corrected in the marketplace.
M38 23100 June 51
M38 34523 Sep 51
M606/CJ3B 1964 Kaiser 57348 118458
M37B1 1963
Willys MB 1944
Ford GPW 1942
Dodge WC63 1943
Dodge Power Wagon WM300 1967
Plymouth Barracuda, 1973, 340 4 barrel
All ground up restored by me.
Lots of others.
User avatar
whydahdvr
Member
Posts: 647
Joined: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:00 pm
Location: Melrose, MA and Santa Fe, NM

Post by whydahdvr »

What about the STA Traxions? I've been thinking of them when I do need replacements, for the better tread. I mostly drive on beach and sand roads as well as sandy pavement.
North Shore, MA
Santa Fe, NM
1942 GPW
1952 M38
1964 Apollo 5000 GT

De Opresso Liber
Post Reply