Footman loops size... hole to hole?

[Daveyboy]

Asking because I see WW2 MB/GPW footman loops offered and
I don’t see M series specific type offered.
Are they the same?

Same hole to hole pitch?

I believe the major suppliers are offering loops with a
2-1/8” center to center hole spacing

[wesk]

Except for a couple of special purpose loops the footman loops found all over both jeeps is the standard hardware item Loop, Footman 1" strap size. It's a common hardware item that the Army has stocked since they had wagons.

Over the years on these web pages the discussion has generally agreed that there are very subtle differences in appearance/shape of WWII period vs current period footman loops.

ORD# 7697591, WO# 673456, Old Army stock # H002-7697591, FSN 5340-00-653-7275

The old WWII WO# was A-2168 (Eberhard Mfg Co. # 6402), ORD# 7698440, Old stk # G503-7698440, Ford # GPW1154810A

Here are a couple of helpful links:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... pic&t=6434
Read slowly and carefully, it can get confusing!

https://www.wbparts.com/rfq/5340-00-653-7275.html
This one will show all the numbers and dimensions.

Product Details | STRAP FASTENER LOOP
5340-00-653-7275 An item of rigid material having an aperture or opening through which the end(s) of a strap(s) or belt(s) is designed to be inserted, folded, and secured to itself by sewing, riveting, or the like. It is used to fasten the end(s) of a strap or belt to itself, to another belt or strap, or to an object or structure.

Part Alternates: 673456, 7697591, 975905, 5340-00-653-7275, 00-653-7275, 5340006537275, 006537275

Hardware and Abrasives | Hardware, Commercial

Supply Group (FSG) NSN Assign. NIIN Item Name Code (INC)
53 01 JAN 1963 00-653-7275 20539 ( LOOP, STRAP FASTENER )
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Demand History | NSN 5340-00-653-7275
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Cross Reference | NSN 5340-00-653-7275
Part Number Cage Code Manufacturer
673456 24617 GENERAL MOTORS CORP
7697591 19207 U S ARMY TANK AUTOMOTIVE COMMAND AMSTA-IM-MM
975905 34623 AM GENERAL, LLC
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Related Products | NSN 5340-00-653-7275
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5340-00-653-7497, 5340-00-653-7621, 5340-00-653-7692, 5340-00-653-8221, 5340-00-653-8699



Technical Data | NSN 5340-00-653-7275
Characteristic Specifications
MATERIAL STEEL
PAINTED FEATURE INCLUDED
COLOR OLIVE DRAB
STYLE DESIGNATOR D6 FOOTMANS LOOP
AAUB HOLE DIAMETER 0.219 INCHES NOMINAL
ABRF CENTER TO CENTER DISTANCE BETWEEN HOLES 2.125 INCHES NOMINAL
ADJU INSIDE LENGTH 1.094 INCHES NOMINAL
ADJV OUTSIDE WIDTH 0.563 INCHES NOMINAL
AFMQ INSIDE HEIGHT 0.375 INCHES NOMINAL
SPECIAL FEATURES HOLES COUNTERSUNK 82 DEG TO 3/8 IN. DIA FROM TOP
Restrictions/Controls & Freight Information | NSN 5340-00-653-7275
Restictions
Freight
Category Code Description
Shelf-Life Code: 0 Nondeteriorative
Hazardous Material Indicator Code P There is no information in the HMIS; however, the NSN is in an FSC in Table II of Federal Standard 313 and an MSDS may be required by the user. The requirement for an MSDS is dependent on a hazard determination of the supplier or the intended end use of the product
Demilitarization Code: A Non-Munitions List Item/ Non-Strategic List Item - Demilitarization not required.
Controlled Inventory Item Code: U UNCLASSIFIED
Precious Metals Indicator Code: U Precious metal type is unknown
Criticality Code: X The item does not have a nuclear hardened feature or any other critical feature such as tolerance, fit restriction or application.

Management | NSN 5340-00-653-7275
Army Management Army
Air Force Management Air Force
Navy Management Navy
Category Code Description
Materiel Category and Inventory Manager T Industrial Supplies (DLA/GSA Items)
Appropriation and Budget Activity 2 Stock Fund Secondary Items
Management Inventory Segment 2 NONREPARABLE ITEMS (Exclusive of Insurance and Provisioning Items). This code will be used to identify items which are not reparable.
Specific Group/Generic Code 0 Medical Materiel
Weapons Systems/End Item or Homogeneous Group 00 DLA/GSA-Managed Items that cannot be identified to a specific Army Weapons Systems/End Item
Accounting Requirements Code X Expendable item. An item of Army property coded with an ARC of ?X? in the AMDF. Expendable items require no formal accountability after issue from a stock record account. Commercial and fabricated items similar to items coded ?X? in the AMDF are considered expendable items.
Source of Supply SMS Defense Logistics Agency
Enterprise Business Systems
Agency DA Department of the Army
Service Organization A U.S. Army
Reparability Z This is a nonreparable item. If condemned or economically unserviceable, then dispose at the level authorized replace the item.
Acquisition Advice Codes V TERMINAL ITEM # Identifies items in stock, but future procurement is not authorized. Requisitions may continue to be submitted until stocks are exhausted. Preferred item National Stock Number is normally provided by application of the phrase: When Exhausted Use (NSN). Requisitions will be submitted in accordance with IMM/Service requisitioning procedures as applicable.
Controlled Item Code U UNCLASSIFIED
Shelf Life Code 0 Nondeteriorative
Purchasing QTY
UOM A
EA : Each

[wesk]

I finally got into my photo album.


Some odd sizes are out there. We use the 2 1/8" centers.


Here's a NOS box of them.


and another