M38 grill hinges
- Biff
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M38 grill hinges
I’m pretty new at M38 feature identification but I’m looking at one that seems to not have grill hinges. How can I tell if it’s the real McCoy or not?
1952 M38
- wesk
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Lack of grill hinges is generally indicative of the use of a CJ frame. Post a photo of the front frame rails that includes the bumper and the base of the grill.
This is a real M38 Frame:

This is a real M38 Frame:

Wes K
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- Biff
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Thanks for the quick comeback. It’s appreciated.
The subject vehicle is still someone else’s property but is being considered. There are a couple red flags that need to be addressed. The grill hinge issue is one of them. Posting pictures on here is still one of the mysteries that has to be figured out and mastered. I’m not there yet.
The subject vehicle is still someone else’s property but is being considered. There are a couple red flags that need to be addressed. The grill hinge issue is one of them. Posting pictures on here is still one of the mysteries that has to be figured out and mastered. I’m not there yet.
1952 M38
- mdainsd
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If you haven't done so, You need to ask Wes to set yo up with a photo album here on this site. Then you upload photos to it from your computer and then link your photo(s) from your album to the post you are writing.
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Biff,
I opened an album for you here on our web site. The loading of photos is simple and clearly explained in the attached links.
Here's your album:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
Here's the rules:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... opic&t=498
Here's the tutorial for loading your album:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
Here's the tutorial for posting your photos:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... pic&t=8670
I opened an album for you here on our web site. The loading of photos is simple and clearly explained in the attached links.
Here's your album:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
Here's the rules:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... opic&t=498
Here's the tutorial for loading your album:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
Here's the tutorial for posting your photos:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... pic&t=8670
Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
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ChuckW
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Look at the shock mounts, M38 is threaded for a 7/16"-20 lock nut, civilian has a hole for a 3/32"-1" cotter pin. EDIT: Thanks, Wes, fixed it!
Last edited by ChuckW on Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:34 am, edited 4 times in total.
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1952 M38/M100
M274A2
1964 CJ3B
Dixie Division MVC #002
1952 M38/M100
M274A2
1964 CJ3B
- wesk
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The CJ shock mount cotter pin is actually 3/32" x 1".

This link is for the larger file size photo that will be easier to read.
http://willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules/gall ... sm_001.jpg

This link is for the larger file size photo that will be easier to read.
http://willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules/gall ... sm_001.jpg
Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php