M38 Front Frame Specs

JeepFregia · Post by **JeepFregia** » Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:13 pm

When I got my M38 it did not have a front bumper, but had a plate welded to the front of the frame for a winch. I am in the process of grinding off the welds to remove that plate, but I am afraid that the original front of the frame will not be there.

I am trying to find pictures of the front of the frame to make sure that my frame still has all the metal that it’s suppose to have. The only pictures that I can find have the front bumper mounted on it. Any pictures or even pictures with dimensions on it would be very helpful!

Ryan
1951 M38

Post by **wesk** » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:16 pm

Ryan,

Try starting your search in my photo album. It is the second album under "Member's Albums"
This link takes you to our Albums Page: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php?name=gallery

This link takes you to "Member's Albums":
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php

This is the link to my album:
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php

You will find several hundred very detailed photos there that usually will answer 9 out of 10 questions on their own.

This is the link to my sub-album for "M38 Frames":
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php

Here's another with the bumper attached.

This photo shows the tip of the frame that you are missing.

JeepFregia · Post by **JeepFregia** » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:39 pm

Thank You Wes!

My frame has the part that comes up to the bumper missing. Now I have to figure out how to rebuild that!?!?

Post by **wesk** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:56 am

The photo I saw of you frame showed you were only missing the front rail tips from just forward of the spring forward mount brackets. If you are comfortable fabricating and welding heavy gauge steel the all you need are dimensions. If you are a fabricator then finding a junk frame and buying the front tips is the way to go.

Let,s see if we can get you some dimensions.

JeepFregia · Post by **JeepFregia** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:43 am

I am not a fabricator, but I am willing to learn and probably know someone near me that can do it and teach me.

I am going to try and finish removing that winch plate today and get some pictures posted to show what I am missing.

If I could get the dimensions that would be amazing!

I have had this Jeep for 8 years and I am 26 now, so very little to no experience in restoring Jeeps. Having to learn everything as I go.

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Ryan
1951 M38

4x4M38 · Post by **4x4M38** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:25 pm

Here are a pair of pretty badly roached out front frame horns.

For the money you could use them for patterns.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Frame-Horns-Pa ... 3042192059

RICKG · Post by **RICKG** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:12 pm

4x4M38 wrote:Here are a pair of pretty badly roached out front frame horns.

For the money you could use them for patterns.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Frame-Horns-Pa ... 3042192059

Except for the crazy shipping $$

RonD2 · Post by **RonD2** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:23 pm

Those horns are in North Georgia.

Ryan's profile doesn't say where he is. Or did I miss it? Might not be too expensive shipping cost?

And I recall I just saw an ad for a guy parting out a M38 frame and body with a lot of the do-dads present for $1000. Don't remember the location, but it looked like a deal to me. Do I need to hunt it down again and post it?

I wish folks would post their location in their profile.......don't need grid coordinates but the name of the county and state would be nice?

RonD2 · Post by **RonD2** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:45 pm

Forgot to add......my M38 front bumper is off at the moment. I could take some measurements if it would help.

And just because I'm not sure...the roached out horns advertised in Georgia on flea-bay are from a M38A1........are they the same as the M38 that Ryan has?

RonD2 · Post by **RonD2** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:31 pm

It's not the frame I mentioned earlier, but here's a M38 frame for $400 in Florida.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Willys-jeep-M3 ... 3454010148

Post by **wesk** » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:57 am

M38 front frame rail tip

M38A1

JeepFregia · Post by **JeepFregia** » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:47 am

RonD2 wrote:Forgot to add......my M38 front bumper is off at the moment. I could take some measurements if it would help.

And just because I'm not sure...the roached out horns advertised in Georgia on flea-bay are from a M38A1........are they the same as the M38 that Ryan has?

That would be great Rob! I wasn't able to get that plate off yesterday, so I am going to try to get with someone with a blow torch this week to get it off. And once I get it off we will know exact what I am missing and what measurements I need. But after comparing the pictures Wes attached I believe the only part that is missing is the front raised part of the frame and maybe some of the top of it.

Kendall · Post by **Kendall** » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:48 am

For what it is worth, you do not need a photo gallery to post photos in the forums. Just upload your photos to a photo service. I use Imjur.com because they have a link to the photos for discussion boards. Click that and paste here and there are the photos. The photo gallery is a way to store your photos here for all to see at any time.
Kendall

RonD2 · Post by **RonD2** » Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:10 pm

Ok Ryan, let me know what measurements you need when you're ready and I'd be glad to help.

JeepFregia · Post by **JeepFregia** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:16 am

Alright I got that winch plate off and grind off the welds to show what is left of the original frame. And well I am pleased at what was left as I thought there would be more gone. But, I still got some work to do.

Here are the pictures of my frame:

Now these are the measurements I think I need to complete this, I have marked them in yellow lines. I also need the diameter of the holes on the bottom and top. And please, if there are others measurements you think that I need or some that are unnecessary please let me know. Also, if I could get a side view looking inward of the frame without the bumper that would be awesome!

M38 Front Frame Specs

M38 Front Frame Specs

Ron: Measurements Needed