T90 shifting questiom

[CoastieReid]

Out of curiosity, when the t90 is stationary, should I be able to shift it into 2nd or 3rd?

Why I ask is I can go R and (1st, but can’t go to 2 or 3.

I checked my shift forks are correct.

Brand new components.

I don’t want to go installing it, get it driving and find out the bind won’t go away with actual movement. Better to take apart now again instead of later I suppose.

Your thoughts?

[Xamon]

Can you shift from reverse straight to 2nd or 3rd? Can you spin the unit by hand to try shifting with the guts in a different place?

[jake138]

After rebuilding mine, I can tell you that I can shift between 2nd and 3rd on the bench. It was very tight the first few times I did it, but slowly rotating the input shaft while keeping gentle pressure on the shift lever eventually let it drop into each gear. After a few times of shifting between all the gears, I definitely felt the 2nd and 3rd shifts get easier. I believe it has to do with the new retainer springs for the pawls in the syncro hub, my springs were very stiff during assembly and I even considered reusing the old ones because they were still in good shape and flexible. During a practice assembly, I did actually install the old syncro springs and the assembly of the input shaft to the main shaft seemed easier than the final assembly with the new springs.

[CoastieReid]

what I figured.

No I can not go from reverse to second.
I can only shift it 1st and reverse.

I did try turning the shaft while attempting to shift, but it didn't go= but then again my leverage is off due to it being on the ground and not stable/bolted down.

I will try again.

[dpcd67]

No you can't shift transmissions normally unless they are spinning.
It's normal.

[CoastieReid]

did nothing since the last time I tried this.... Tried again today... Shifted no problem with a slight movement of the shaft.

I have no idea. I had previously tried to do this with the shaft moving and it wouldn't budge.

[RonD2]

No worries. Somewhat common ocurence to me with an inert manual transmission that's meant to be spinning to shift.
My 2003 Tacoma 4WD sometimes balks, usually going into reverse when parked --- engage and disengage the clutch once or twice moves the offending gear just enough to get them to mesh.
Same experience I've had with heavy truck 15-speed transmissions.

Driving a manual transmission is getting to be a lost art I think.
And a very good anti-theft device nowadays.
I read somewhere that only about 10% of cars have one, even less that know how to drive one.

And only 2nd and 3rd gears on the T90 are synchronized (kind of).......

[CoastieReid]

Until I got the bronco, 3 of 4 of my vehicles had manuals.
I taught myself on my first truck in 99.