Data plate

4x4M38 · Post by **4x4M38** » Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:53 pm

Don’t use abrasive to clean the plates, especially the one behind the seat. It is very easy to wipe away information with sandpaper, etc.

Post by **wesk** » Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:28 pm

I have number 25359
That would fit the screws.
There is no picture in the instructions for the text.
So I wouldn't have discovered it myself.

Actually when using the ORD 9 SNL G-740 Parts Manual simply find the best group name for your parts in the table of contents front of manual first page.

That would be group 22 Miscellaneous Accessories

Group 22 starts on page 326. Note that it has sub chapters numbered as such 2201 Canvas items, bows & curtains, 2202 Mirrors, reflectors & windshield wipers, 2208.1 Speedometer, and finally 2210 Vehicular data plates starting on page 337.

I noticed in your photo of your patent plate someone has taken the liberty of adding . 38 . after the factory original prefix of MC. That really does not belong there but not much you can do now to correct it.

bighead · Post by **bighead** » Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:31 am

Thanks for the advice on looking in the manual.
Yes, those dots don't belong there, unfortunately someone knocked them out

The unit converter did not give me an answer to the dimensions of the screws,we have a metric system,I miss the measurements in millimeters

SCREW, TAPPING, pan-hd, gimlet-pt, sh-met-thd, S, cd
or zn-pltd, No. 6 (0.190)-18 x W

0,190 -he answers-4,826 mm?
Is that the diameter of the screw?

4x4M38 · Post by **4x4M38** » Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:21 am

No. 6, (.190) refers to the shank diameter or outside thread diameter.

-18 refers to the pitch, or 18 threads per inch.

These are pretty coarse thread screws.

Post by **wesk** » Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:44 am

0.190 is the diameter of the screw in decimal inches. 18 is the thread pitch. These are not machine type screws. They are sheetmetal type screws so a minor deviation between inch and metric in thread pitch will not be an issue. Your "W" is where the manuals length of 3/8" is written. 3/8" = 0.3750" = 9.53mm. The "No.6" is a number system we use here in the US for small fasteners.

A note I will make is the ORD 9 entry for these screws seems to have mixed up the screw Number vs decimal" diameter. A common Number 6 screw diameter is 0.138" not 0.190". This is interesting! 0.190" is normally associated with the Number 10 screw.

The ORD 9 SNL G-740 parts manual has a glossary of abbreviations on pages 5, 6 & 7.

bighead · Post by **bighead** » Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:58 pm

Hi, thanks for the advice.
I am sending photos of the screws.
The short ones should be original.
The length of the screw including the head is 9.7 mm.
Sheet metal in glove box went to take apart-Good access to the back of the panel.

bighead · Post by **bighead** » Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:05 pm

I am adding information regarding the photo of the nut - probably the original as well.
The thickness of the nut is 2 mm.

Post by **wesk** » Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:08 pm

The nut cannot be original from Willys. Willys used sheet metal screws and the part numbers describe sheet metal screws not machine screws and nuts. The sheet metal screws are designed for use without nuts.

Sheet metal screw

Machine Screw

bighead · Post by **bighead** » Sat Jul 09, 2022 4:32 am

Self-tapping screws, I understand.
Original unobtainable.
I'll stick with bolts and nuts.
Will not damage the opening and prevents labels from being easily stolen.
That kit wasn't cheap.

JBJeep · Post by **JBJeep** » Sun Oct 16, 2022 7:45 pm

To get back to the original question about refinishing g the plates...

How do they turn out with the sand/paint/sand method?

Mike_B · Post by **Mike_B** » Sun Oct 16, 2022 8:02 pm

Robert at Data Plates 4 U has all the data plates for our Jeeps and will correctly stamp your numbers on them. He even has the inspector stamps (crossed cannons and eagle etc.).

https://dataplates4u.com/jeep-m38/

Mike B