NOS m-38 UNDER GAS TANK anti-squeak in original box

[keats]

a friend recently bought this item ,M38 ANTI-SQUEAK, and thought it a good idea to share. This is for under the gas tank. This is the long piece 18 -11/16 long x 1 inch wide x 1/16 thick - as listed in the ORD 9. Very similar to thick tar paper.

[BobW]

Very cool, thanks for posting!

[radtech]

This package originally held 3 ea 18" strips.

[wesk]

Wonder how this pack ended up with more than 16 in it and the quantity crossed out?

[radtech]

According to ORD9 SNL G740 the package originally had 3ea.18" strips.Looks like someone cut them up into little pieces.

[keats]

seems to be some misunderstandings and miss reading, and some rather negative responses about the anti-squeak and packaging posting.

the ORD 9 does not specify how many strips are in a package, just the amount needed for each vehicle(which is three of the long ones.)

the 16 on the box label is part of the measurement of the strips.

the box originally stated holding 25, but someone had written 27 on the box, which is the amount of strips in it. perhaps they were consolidated at the motor pool at some point, but who knows. Whaat difference does it make really.

the strips are the length are as stated in the ORD 9, and not cut into small pieces. my original post stated the length of them.

[wesk]

Gary,

seems to be some misunderstandings and miss reading, and some rather negative responses about the anti-squeak and packaging posting.

I see misunderstanding, I do not see miss reading or negative responses concerning the quantity of strips that are suppose to be in the pack. The two posts simply asked how many strips were suppose to be in the box. The second post failed to discern between Qty used on jeep = 3 which is not necessarily the expected quantity in the package which shows as 1ea in the unit of issue column.

It really seems the IPL shows unit of issue 1 ea which means that if the person who places the order says 1 ea then one would be in the package. Here after explaining what was actually crossed out on the package sticker it is now clear the person who ordered those strips ordered 25 ea. Thank you for clarifying that.

[RonD2]

Perhaps more misunderstanding has been caused in the Army supply system by something called the "QUP" (Quantity Unit Pack) which tells how many of an item are included inside each package.

Since QUP isn't listed in the ORD9 it must be found elsewhere.

As I read the ORD9, when a mechanic orders 3 strips of WO-801561, some supply clerk in a warehouse opens a box (like Keats posted) and removes 3 strips to send to the mechanic, probably in a hand marked paper bag.
Then he'd probably use his ink stick to change the quantity left in the box (evidence Keats photo).
He might even consolidate opened boxes for the next inventory.

These anti-squeak strips were replaced by WEBBING 27-W-11185.
This replacement isn't shown in the September 1955 ORD9 (page 80) ---> instead see the June 1956 ORD7 page 21.
It's unit of issue is "foot" not "each".
If the mechanic needs 3 strips of WO-801561 he'd order 5 feet (3 x 18-11/16 rounded up to the nearest foot).

Except the supply clerk will reel off and cut 5 individual pieces each 1 foot long from the bulk spool he has in stock.

There's another supply code the savvy mechanic uses to tell the supply clerk not to do that but instead issue it as 5 continuous feet uncut so the mechanic can do the final trimming.

None of this shown or explained in the ORD7 or 9 but is buried in other cryptic supply publications.

Interesting to note that Keats photo shows the package date as December 1956 while the change replacing pre-cut strips to bulk webbing happened in June 1956.

The Army supply system can be a challenge to navigate.

Just my 2 cents.

[RonD2]

On the topic of ANTI-SQUEAK I was thinking where it’s used on the fenders might be the same as used under the gas tank, but it’s not.

The ORD9 (page 286) shows two G503 (MB-GPW) part numbers but doesn’t give the dimensions, and it also lists a replacement part number 17-W-918, with a unit of issue as “yards” and the quantity needed “as required”.

The ordnance part number in the ORD9 for the fender webbing (17-W-918) is similar format to the bulk gas tank webbing part number (27-W-11185) so it’s in the same family but must not be the same dimensions.

Curiously, the fender anti-squeak isn’t listed at all in the ORD7 manual.

[Ryan_Miller]

Great photos Keats!

Can I add them to the next M38 book update?

Is the cardboard material coated in anything- sounds like a tar like material?

[RonD2]

Hi Ryan,
That would be a nice addition to the M38 Reference Guide.

Maybe start a thread to ask members to post photos that you could consider for the next edition?
Might get some interesting candidates.

Here's one: http://willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules.php? ... =parachute

Just a thought.