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Crankshaft index arrow
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 5:59 am
by Brumbach
What is the significance of the arrow index on the crankshaft rear flange? I can't seem to find reference to it in the manuals. I have read on other sites that when it is positioned at 12 O'clock it "can" indicate TDC but not necessarily. I'll bet it serves to orient the installation of the flywheel since the flywheel rear scribes TDC and 5 degree BTDC are used in conjunction with the cover plate in setting everything for timing. I know how to determine TDC and set timing. Just curious about the arrow. Thanks in advance.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 10:34 am
by wesk
Post a photo of your arrow!
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 12:07 pm
by Brumbach
The crank is loaded. I'll give it a try.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 12:51 pm
by wesk
It always makes questions much easier to answer or research when they are accompanied by a photo.
Is the arrow painted or engraved?
I ask because I just looked at my cranks and they do not have any arrows on the front face of the rear flange.
Perhaps your arrow was added by a prior owner to help with indexing the crank to the flywheel for balance purposes?

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 1:03 pm
by Brumbach
Take a look.
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
That link above is for the smaller copy of your photo.
This is the link for the larger copy of your photo:
http://willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules/gall ... G_3426.jpg
If you put this before this link

it will appear as a photo here in your post.
1st you left click on the " Img " icon above here and the

" will appear at the end of your photo link.
It only took me 5 seconds to do everything I told you in the above paragraph resulting in your photo appearing here.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 1:10 pm
by Brumbach
If you can zoom in you can see the arrow clearly. I don't know if that's possible at posted on photo gallery. I'm tech dumb when it comes to this stuff.
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 10:01 pm
by wesk
That arrow is clearly an index mark for the flywheel positioning. I noticed you edited your posts above because I could swear you said the arrow was on the other side of the flange originally.
Again, my M38 crank does not have the arrow. Since it is etched on yours so lightly it would not be visible thru any heavy corrosion or pitting.
I have always been in the habit of make indexing marks on cranks and flywheels on old engines for two reasons.
1: these are often dynamically balanced as a set.
2: early engines had the timing marks on the flywheel and these flywheels can be installed 2 ways each 180 degrees apart. When you pick the wrong flywheel index you end up having to use #4 TDC instead of #1 TDC for timing.
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 3:17 am
by Brumbach
I did edit as the statement was in error. I realized it when I went to take the photo. You must've read as quickly as I'd posted it. Sorry for the confusion. Thanks for the response.
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 9:38 am
by wesk
It will keep things more understandable in these long threads when you edit an earlier post if you leave the error and add the correction so both can be seen and the full text of each reply afterwards is better understood.