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M38 markings

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:13 pm
by radtech
Does any one know what this stencil is from the drivers side below the door and mirror on an M38 in black paint.
PROSS 12-50
FTHD
T B ORD 385

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:14 pm
by wesk
TB ORD 385 was an old standard for overseas shipment of Army equipment. It would indicate that jeep was prepped to be shipped overseas Dec 1950.
TB ORD 385 Standards for Oversea Shipment and Domestic Issue of Ordnance Materiel Other Than Ammunition and Army Aircraft.

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:43 am
by radtech
I was looking at some old photos when I stripped the 4 layers of paint off my 1950 M38.This was painted on the first layer of factory paint. I am thinking of having a stencil made and put this back on the vehicle.Do you know what the FTHD is?

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:22 am
by wesk
I have never been able to locate a copy of that old TB ORD. You will need to find a copy of it first to answer your question.

I do not recall seeing that stencil on any M38's waiting at Willys to ship.

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Here's a crated M38A1 without it.

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Here's a M38 doing a factory production line Dyno test.

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It wasn't on the right side in the factory shipping lot.

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This is a very recent arrival from Willys in Korea and you can barely make out some black stencil below the mirror.

I am having a tough time finding any factory shipping area photos of the driver's side of the M38.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:05 am
by radtech
On the last picture is where it was marked .I wonder if the FTHD is Fort Hood?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:41 am
by radtech
The Army Military History Inst. is trying to locate a copy of TB ORD 385.They said it first came out in 1950.They said the previous version was SB 9-2 1945.

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:54 am
by radtech
Information from Army MHI is that my M38 was processed at Ft Hood Texas for overseas shipment in Dec.1950.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:03 pm
by 4x4M38
Wes,
TB 384 is supposedly included in this e book:

https://books.google.com/books/about/Ma ... lIDwAAQBAJ

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:54 pm
by radtech
No it is only referencing the TB384