Generator mounting

Brumbach · Post by **Brumbach** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:03 pm

My mounting bracket has a metal bushing installed in lieu of rubber. It's in good shape, i.e., not pitted or scored. The engine plate has an orifice that will accommodate installation of the second bushing - presently missing. My question: Since I have a metal bushing installed should I replace it with a rubber bushing. Looking at a photo of Wes's, it shows the use of two rubber bushings ; one in the mounting bracket and the other in the orifice in the front engine plate. Thanks in advance.

Post by **wesk** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:06 pm

Willys used two rubber bushings and I suggest you stay with the correct arrangement of 2 rubber bushings 7375175.

Brumbach · Post by **Brumbach** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:19 am

wesk wrote:Willys used two rubber bushings and I suggest you stay with the correct arrangement of 2 rubber bushings 7375175.

I'll take a photo of the metal bushing installed before I change it out. It's not a bubba job. Looks professional. Wonder why someone would go to such lengths to avoid using the correct part? BTW, this is a series 2 L134. Thanks for the advice.

Post by **wesk** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:55 am

The M38 and M38A1 used a front engine plate and rear generator mount that differed significantly from the CJ's. Big deal was the military 24V generator was twice as heavy as the CJ's 6 & 12V generators.

I think you are setting yourself up for a harmonics issue trying to mount that heavy generator at the front with a soft rubber shock mount and the rear with a solid bushing.

skyjeep50 · Post by **skyjeep50** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:23 am

The rubber bushings eventually deteriorate over time like all things rubber but because they are a "military" part, and are not readily available from a civvy Jeep parts dealer - bubba stuck in a make-do part. The proper bushings are available from military parts dealers. They are a bit of a chore to insert, use some grease and warming them in hot water helps pliability. I replaced mine in the M38 about 5 years ago - still like new.

Brumbach · Post by **Brumbach** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:17 pm

wesk wrote:The M38 and M38A1 used a front engine plate and rear generator mount that differed significantly from the CJ's. Big deal was the military 24V generator was twice as heavy as the CJ's 6 & 12V generators.

I think you are setting yourself up for a harmonics issue trying to mount that heavy generator at the front with a soft rubber shock mount and the rear with a solid bushing.

I've installed both rubber bushing now so it is as it's suppose to be. I still haven't got the hang of moving pictures from my photo journal but you can see the metal bushing that I was speaking of if you take a peek. If it was a bubba fabrication, it was a good one. The jeep came from DRMO, passing hands from Army to Marine Corps. I purchased it in the late 60's or early 70's and drove it until I shipped out to Okinawa in 1978. It's been setting in a shed ever since. The metal bushing didn't give me any problems but I'll admit I didn't drive the M38 more than a few thousand miles annually. Possibly I was lucky. As for the heavy generator, what I'm really setting myself up for is a hernia when I try to mount it tomorrow. Should've tackled this project when my sons were still living at home.

Brumbach · Post by **Brumbach** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:14 pm

No hernia! Generator has been installed. A fat man once told a group of us young bucks "If you want to know how to do something the easy way, ask a fat man." Being a bit out of shape, I found a work-around. The old fat man would be proud of me.

Post by **wesk** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:35 pm

Glad it all worked out for you. Were you at Naha or Kadena back then?

Brumbach · Post by **Brumbach** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:24 am

Zukeran-also called Camp Foster.

Post by **wesk** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:29 am

Ah, not Air Force! I had a good friend stationed at Naha and I spent several visits at Kadena. He worked C130's at Haha and I was a KC-135 tanker crew chief on my Kadena visits. I even sent the wife some Noitake China from there in 1971. Had to visit the Army Hospital there in 72 for a back injury. Kadena only had a small infirmary.

Brumbach · Post by **Brumbach** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:09 pm

Spent a lot of time at Kadena clubs. Best on the island.

Post by **wesk** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:38 pm

I always wondered why so many other service members were using the Kadena clubs. I got in to brawls at the Kadena club in 71 Y 72, both with sailors.

RonD2 · Post by **RonD2** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:37 pm

I have historical reference calling the Kadena clubs in that time frame nicely upholstered sewers. Of course, that was right before they threw the Marines out of them.

Dang...did I say that out loud?

I first landed in Japan at Iwakuni in 1973 and it weren't much different.

Post by **wesk** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:26 pm

Marines aren't all bad! I recall many on R&R in Bangkok 1968-69 who, when they found out we were B-52 guys from U'Tapao, insisted on buying us all our rounds each nite. I also have a long interesting story of a young 18 year old Marine who walked into the NCO club on Andersen AFB Guam the summer of 1973 with quite a load on!