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Strap Routing for Top Bow storage.
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:16 am
by Nic
Hi all,
I remember many years ago seeing a illustration of how the stowage straps go around the Top Bow tubing to secure it on the Jeep. I now cannot find it can anybody point me in the right direction please.
Thank You
Regards
Nic
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:42 am
by wesk
From the M38A1 TM 9-8014
From the M38 TM 9-8012
Essentially both jeeps do it the same way. The strap was either stowed in the tool box or stowed on the rear wheelhouse thru a rear footloop.
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:03 am
by Nic
As always Wes
Thank You
Regards
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:40 pm
by JBJeep
This reminds me, I need a pair.
I have looked at the usual vendors and come up fairly empty...one only sells complete kits..which I do not need.
Can.anyone provide a PN (probably doesn't have one...it's part of top assembly) or vendor?
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:36 pm
by RonD2
Strap isn't part of the top.
Captivated by a footman loop.
I found the part number listed in the ORD9.
I see KW and QTM selling them (as a pair), but not sure length is correct.
It's also the same strap used to hold the windshield down when folded.
Good luck!
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:56 pm
by Pierre
What's the lenght or part number you need?
I have a NOS box of 25 straps, I can sell you a couple if you like
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:04 pm
by JBJeep
Pierre
I don't know. I'll try to fond the PN in my ORD 9.
I have no reason DEA about the length .
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:33 pm
by RonD2
I've found lengths of 15 and 22 inches, and different type buckles.
I think maybe it depends on M38 or M38A1 and if you're after originality or don't care about it.
And the strap is supposed to have a sewn-in loop on the buckle end to captivate the strap to the footman loop on top of the wheelhouse.
What's "DEA" mean?
See M38A1 ORD9 page 341, STRAP, Top Bow Stowage, WO-681956.
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:48 am
by JBJeep
"DEA" = "idea" somehow changed by the auto correct on my tablet.
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:33 pm
by RonD2
Yup.
I got the habit a long time ago of reading what I type before hitting the "send" button --- just to keep a computer from making me look like a fool.
When I type something foolish I want it to be genuine.
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:22 pm
by 4x4M38
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 12:47 am
by JBJeep
Ron, Wesk
Details on the ones offered by various vendors seem to be pretty nonspecific.... Certainly no WO- or Army number is provided. Neither is length.
In other words they are just described as top bow straps.
Not a huge help if one wants to
try to be correct.
Picking a catalog at random (it has good pictures) are these correct?
https://www.kaiserwillys.com/products/u ... -66-m38a1/
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:20 am
by rgmutchler
I thought that Wee Bee Webbing offered some of the different straps and had some measurements for them on their website.
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:39 am
by wesk
Your answer has always been right in the M38's ORD 9 SNL G-740!!!!!
M38A1 top bow straps are different and are listed with dimensions in the M38A1 ORD 9 SNL G-758 page 341: ORD Part # 592637 1" x 25".
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:20 am
by JBJeep
That's all great, I appreciate your efforts, but I will point out none of the vendors list part numbers (WO or ORD) or dimensions for their straps.
Makes ordering the
correct one difficult.
Hence my questions.
KW offers them with spring loaded buckles, which John at Midwest military says are correct for all M series vehicles.
The photos posted in a previous thread
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... pic&t=8368
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... pic&t=9082
seem to show buckles that do not appear to have the spring feature.
