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Canadian Jeep extras
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:03 am
by remi_emond
My M38-CDN have the extra tie down "D" ring on the frame side rail and under the spring plate(red arrow on the picture). I want to know how many have these device?
Thanks.
Remi
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:22 am
by wesk
Remi,
Can you share your findings with me when you are finished collecting data?
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:46 am
by boucher
I've been told that extra tie downs were installed on theCDN M38's that were sent overseas on the Bonaventure . I believe you should also have 2 additonal tie downs on the rear bumper. I've posted a picture of one of these rear tie downs .This picture is from the M38 CDN in the Canadian War Museum .See my photo Gallery ( Boucher) last picture.
Hope this helps
Peter(Ottawa)
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:57 am
by wesk
Several of my file notes mention they were used on all CDN's shipped by rail.
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:37 pm
by remi_emond
Peter,
I do not have the one on the rear bumper. Only 4 on the frame (2each side) and 4 under the spring plate. On his 50 year life span, it is possible that some was removed. Nice picture, it is the first time I see these rings on an other jeep.
Wes,
I will be happy to share info. The only thing I know was found on the site
http://www.m38a1.ca/m38.html mentioning 8 extra rings on the frame for jeep transported by rail (the location of ring is not indicated) and 8 extra rings on frame + 4 rings installed to the four spring shackle plates for jeep going overseas. I hope all M38-CDN owners will take a look under their jeep and tell what they found.
Regards.
Remi
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:13 am
by Allan
None on mine
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:37 am
by Allan
Another odd thing is a bracket which keeps the added turning indicator
( modified BO marker ) that was mounted to each fender from twisting.
My m38 has them, as well as the one in the Canadian war Museum.
Is this just a Canadian Mod? as I have only seen 3 vehicles with these.
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:55 am
by cmpman
The tie down rings could also be found on M38A1s, and on the M100 trailers. I remember seeing them on some of the recoiless rifle jeeps and trailers in the 80s. They were supposed to be installed on vehicles to allow for airtransportability. I have the mod instruction for the M100 trailers, and remember seeing the instruction for the trucks, but cannot find it at present.
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:43 am
by wesk
Are you referring to M38A1's and M100's or M38A1CDN's and M100CDN's?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:38 am
by cmpman
Ooops, sorryabout that. M100 Cdn and M38A1Cdn. The NSN for the installation kit (2540-21-114-2097) is also a Canadian number.
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:19 pm
by remi_emond
cmpman, can you send me a copy of these instruction?
Remi
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:52 pm
by wesk
When you find the instructions can you also email them to me. I'll PDF them and get them up on the web site.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:30 pm
by remi_emond
the rings are present on Hal's jeep
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:46 am
by OKCM38CDN
I added the rings to my jeep...
I was sent the dimensions from one of the folks here on the group and made them in a welding class I took... then bolted them to the frame...
My jeep is CDN as the rebuild tags I found were RCEME and the CAR# behind the bumper...
Hoe this helps...
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:59 am
by TOM-R
those d ring brackets on the front of remi's jeep are the same on an m151, i used 151 brackets on mine, though i mounted them to the front of the bumper not the top
