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M38 tools

In the M38 tool kit did the tire iron have a number stamped on it? And what was that number?

Also does anyone have a pic of the iron?

Thanks

Steve,
Are you speaking of Canadian Forces supplied tool kits? The US M38's didn't leave Willys with a tool kit. They were issued by the owning service's supply arm from standard issue equipment items supplied by whomever their vendors were at the time of issue.

Hi Wes

I guess I just figured if the jeep came with a spare wheel then it would come with the jack and tire iron. I found a tire iron the other day that is almost identicle to the WO one for the MB and also the ford one for the GPW.
It is marked A!-W-3837-25 I was hoping it was an M38 one. I have never quieried the M38CDN tool kits, I just assumed they were all the same.

thanks

The only tool listed in the ORD 7 SNL G740 1953 for the organizational user is the front wheel bearing socket. The list below is from the same book.

Items shipped from Willys with the M38:

Wheel, Tire and tube assy. Consisting of:
a. H014-0511830 511830 Tire, pneu, 6 PR, LT, CC Tread,
w/controlled Bead, 7.00-16
b. H014-0519252 519252 Tube, pneu tire, truck & bus,
6.50/7.00-16 (TR-15 valve)
c. G503-7387807 7387807 Wheel, w/rim (16x4.50E, safety type)
d. 41-B-22590 Bracket, drum, inflammable liquid (gasoline), S,
welded, comp w/strap.

Items provided by the military service unit when jeep was issued to user:
a. 41-B-15 Bag, tool, empty
b. Catalog, ORD 7 SNL G-740 Organizational Maintenance
Allowances
c.H014-0540044 540044 Chain, pneau tire, pass car (type P)
7.00-16 and 7.50-16 (authorized for issue to meet local
conditions)
d. FORM (envelope), WDAGO No. 478 MWO and major unit
assembly replacement record and organizational equipment
file.
e. 8-G-620 Gage, tire press, general service type, calibrated 10
to 60 Lbs in 1 Lb. units and 60 to 160 Lbs. in 5 Lb units.
f. 41-H-1251-10 Handle, Jack, collapsible type, lgh overall 36 ¼”.
g. 41-J-74-507 Jack, automobile, screw type, cap 1 ½ ton,
contracted height 7 ¼”, extended height 16”
h. Manual, technical 9-804
i. Order, lube, 9-804.
j. 41-P-1652 Pliers, combination, slip joint, w/cutter, nominal size
8”.
k. 41-S-1076 Screw Driver, comm., hv-duty, integral handle, lgh
of blade 6” width of blade 3/8”, overall lgh 11 ¼”.
l. 41-W-486Wrench, adjustable sgle open end, jaw opening
15/16”, lgh 8”.
m. 41-W-1962-100 Wrench, plug, stgt bar, sq, size of plug ½”,
lgh 2 ½”.
n. 41-W-3837-25 Wrench, wheel stud nut, sgle head, offset
socket, hex size of opng ¾” , lgh 9 ¼”.

Tool Items issued to Organizational maintenance:
a. 41-T-3568-442 Tool Kit Organizational Maint. (2nd Echelon)
special set A.
(1) 41-W-3825-200 Wrench, wheel brg nut, sgle end, tubr,
hex, size of opening 2 1/8”, lgh 3.56”.
b. 41-T-3569-442 Tool kit, organizational maintenance (2nd
echelon), special, Set B
(1) 41-A-18-251 Adapter, puller, strg wheel.
(2) 41-C-2554-400 Compressor, Shock absorber rubber
grommet.
(3) 41-P-2951-850 Puller, steering bellcrank shaft
(4) 41-R-2374-750 Remover and Replacer, brg cup (spindle
pin) thd ¾”- 16NF-2 female (used w/screw 41-S-1047-300)
(5) 41-R-2374-845 Remover and Replacer, brg cup (wheel) Thd
1 ½”- 12NF-2 Female (used w/Screw 41-S-1047-300).
(6) 41-S-1047-300 Screw, remover and replacer (brg cup), thd
¾”-16NF-2, lgh 6”
(7) 41-S-1047-330 Screw, remover and replacer (brg sleeve),
thd 1 ¼”- 12NF-2, lgh 9”.
(8) 41-w-3825-200 Wrench, wheel brg nut, sgle end, tubr, hex,
size of opening 2 1/8”, lgh 3.56”.

Hmm I took a closer look at it and I indicated the number incorrectly. It should be 41-W-3837-25.

There is a post on the G503 referring to a manual (1951 ord 7 G-503 tools and firexes)

this number is listed as the lugnut wrench

Sorry about the omission. Item "N" in my list above is that wrench. I just dropped the part number by accident.

I don't know what tool kit supply system the Canadian forces used with the M38.

The ORD 7 makes it very clear that Willys did not ship M38's or M38A1's with tool kits. The using service installed the tool kits when the jeep was issued to a unit for use.

I think Ill try and pursue the Canadian tool kits for a bit to see what I can find out.

Thanks for your help Wes, appreciated as usual:)