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Help identify please
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Help identify please
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First off pictures help an awful lot when asking for ID help.
If the jeep has flat front fenders it is probably an M38 with the wrong plates on the dash.

M38 Dash

M38
If it has rounded front fenders it is probably a M38A1.

M38A1

M38A1 dash

Ramsey 50R military winch
Willys did not stamp any ID numbers on their frames on M38/M38A1.
If the jeep has flat front fenders it is probably an M38 with the wrong plates on the dash.

M38 Dash

M38
If it has rounded front fenders it is probably a M38A1.

M38A1

M38A1 dash

Ramsey 50R military winch
Willys did not stamp any ID numbers on their frames on M38/M38A1.
Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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Frame
In the 1970's a company was selling reproduction frames that had a USM serial number stamped on the passenger side frame rail, below the drivers feet, facing outward. These frames were sold by Acme jeep parts and others. The quality of the steel was high but I do not know about their accuracy for fitment or origin. A phone call with Acme indicated they were made in Minnesota. I have nothing to confirm this info.
I purchased an unused USM-stamped frame that looked like an M38 frame. It had the hinge pieces for the grille, boxed frame horns and did not include the pedal mounts (M38 bolt in). It also did not include the welded bellcrank mount on the front cross member.
My purchase in 1998 was from the original purchaser who had old paperwork along with the shipping tag still attached to the frame. It had been stored in his garage. I have since sold and can access it for pictures if wanted.
I purchased an unused USM-stamped frame that looked like an M38 frame. It had the hinge pieces for the grille, boxed frame horns and did not include the pedal mounts (M38 bolt in). It also did not include the welded bellcrank mount on the front cross member.
My purchase in 1998 was from the original purchaser who had old paperwork along with the shipping tag still attached to the frame. It had been stored in his garage. I have since sold and can access it for pictures if wanted.
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Tom,
It would be great if you could email me some photos of the Acme frame and the serial. I can ad them to the model ID photo guide. Is the frame still tub free?
Mainworry,
Since you have a repop frame, you may well have a repop tub or body kit as well. Check the top lip of the cowl to firewall joint on the driver's side for a MD Juan serial number.
It would be great if you could email me some photos of the Acme frame and the serial. I can ad them to the model ID photo guide. Is the frame still tub free?
Mainworry,
Since you have a repop frame, you may well have a repop tub or body kit as well. Check the top lip of the cowl to firewall joint on the driver's side for a MD Juan serial number.
Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
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repro frame
Large format photos emailed. The frame is tub-free but trees and brush are starting to take their toll.
Tom
Tom
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Thank you everyone for the responses the vehicle is a flat fender I have some photos in "my gallery" (page 10) under mainworry it is the light coloured one with the winch. Hopefully this will give you guys a better idea of what I have, The body has all the tell tale signs of being an original not an MDJuan.
I will do some more probing whilst prepping the body for some work THANKS
I will do some more probing whilst prepping the body for some work THANKS
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The frame appears to be not boxed from the bumper to the area just below the firewall which is what it should be for an M38 frame. I agree with Tom's analysis that it is an old repop frame.
The winch and the PTO are not original M38. They are Ramsey civilian issue.
The engine appears to be a PE series power plant engine that has some M38 accessories on it but a WO type carb and a civvy oil filter.
The winch and the PTO are not original M38. They are Ramsey civilian issue.
The engine appears to be a PE series power plant engine that has some M38 accessories on it but a WO type carb and a civvy oil filter.
Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
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That would depend on what level of restoration you are contemplating, the quality and quantity of tools you have, the time and funds you have to spend on it and your mechanical skill levels.
Wes K
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php
45 MB, 51 M38, 54 M37, 66 M101A1, 60 CJ5, 76 DJ5D, 47Bantam T3-C & 5? M100
Mjeeps photo album: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php