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M38 Spare tire mounting

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 4:35 pm
by usmcdad
Hello Everyone, I have just spent a lovely couple of hours searching for a clue on mounting my new spare tire carrier to my new tail gate, without any luck. I'm sure you understand about "asking for directions". I've looked for articles, pictures, FM's, downloads and evidently I'm the only one who doesn't know where to drill. I originally thought it would be kind of like a horse shoe, not a lot could go wrong with it, but here I am exposing my flank and asking for help. Apparently I will need some spacers and I don't see how to engage what I assume to be an anti rattle clip on the bottom of the mount. If anyone could head me in the right direction I will appreciate it. Thanks

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 11:10 pm
by wesk
If your new tailgate is not drilled what model jeep tailgate is it? The M38 tailgate is factory drilled and reinforced on the inside for the spare carrier and the gas can. Civvy tailgates are not drilled and do not have the reinforcement angles welded to the inside of the tailgate.

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This is the inside of a M38 tailgate.

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This is the outside of a M38 tailgate.

You can view the detailed measurements on my photo album where there are several hundred detailed reference photos.
http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php

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Rt outer spare mounting

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Rt inner spare mounting

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Lt outer gas can mounting

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Lt inner gas can mounting

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Spacers

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Spacers

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Complete mount with anti-rattle bracket.

tail gate help

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 9:20 am
by usmcdad
Hey there Wesk, Thanks for the assistence. I must admit I am still learning to manuever around this site. I knew the info was here but couldn't quite get at it. This might have a place in the data base - Evidently there is a third alternative to my tail gate situation. I have what must be an after market M38 tail gate (all the braces in the right place) and NO mounting holes. I picked it up in 1978 from some catalog operation as that was all there was at that time. I had a swing away dual Jerry can/spare holder back then so the hole drilling never came up. Thanks Again. I'm going to get on the links you posted and hit the shop.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 10:39 am
by RickC
I believe Midwest sells the spacers...
as a side note, I had a veteran tell me at a show that they lost points on inspection if the valve stem wasn't at 1 o'clock when the spare was mounted.... who knew

tail gate mounting

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 10:51 am
by usmcdad
Thanks Rick, I'll check out Midwest for the spacers - as soon as I figure out how to drill two SQUARE holes 8O

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 11:02 am
by Rick_L
Last I checked, DL Bensinger had NOS M38 tailgates.

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 11:54 am
by Bretto
If you aren't kidding about the square hole thing, its easy. drill a round hole then use a square file to knock out the corners.

Im glad I'll never have to worry about having my valve stem at 1300.

Valve stem placement

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 7:41 pm
by Kendall
Not to sidetrack this thread, but there was a something in PS Magazine that stated the valve stem be in the 1 o'clock position to prevent water from accumulating around it if mounted in a lower position.
Kendall