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Why so hard to get Started? M38

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:22 am
by joebuck
My M38 1952 fully restored runs like a top when i get it running but the initial warm up from cold takes several minutes. My current procedure is I pull choke out all the way and throttle 1 inch then engage starter.. It will crank up nicely but i have to take choke off and flutter the throttle for mintues to keep it cranked. If i put it in gear it will stall. is this the nature of the beast or other problems? thanks

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:08 am
by wesk
Several things can cause your symptoms.

1-Heat riser mechanism in plenum below carb not warming plenum.
2-Not having the correct thick carb base gasket which not only insulates the carb from manifold heat but has a metal "V" device or defuser that assist with atomization of the gas at low RPMs.
3-Bypass hose for water pump missing.
4-Thermostat stuck open or missing.

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:22 am
by joebuck
Thanks Wesk! check in that order or doesnt matter?

3. Definitely have that . mark that off

will try the others

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:26 pm
by wesk
I listed them by order of level of difficulty. Easiest first is always a good choice.

This is the heat riser:
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They came in two different arrangements on the spring.
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This is the correct carb base gasket:
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:29 pm
by joebuck
thanks so much with all your help!....

insulator

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:35 am
by tob
Wes is that insulator available anywhere???

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:46 am
by wesk
I got mine from a surplus dealer a year or so ago. Picked up a few so I wouldn't come up short when I needed one in a hurry. Try the dealers and search with the part number I posted.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0 ... tor&_frs=1