m38a1/ m170 transfer case mount

bl5211a · Post by **bl5211a** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:23 pm

Hello:
Does someone have an exploded view of the M38a1/ M170 transfer case mount snubber and its hardware. I purchased replacement isolators, but something doesn't seem correct.

thanks,
brian

MODIFIED · Post by **MODIFIED** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:49 pm

here ya go:
Quite certain this is the order of arrangement.
You'll notice the special washer on the second row to the right.

The greasy thing second from the bottom is the cup that's spot welded to the cross member. Ths would be your order of reference.

bl5211a · Post by **bl5211a** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:37 pm

Couple Questions:

1) Should large isolator sit on top of frame cup or fit down inside it. The replacement one i have sits on top? My old one looked like it sat down in cup.
2) 3rd row down, second over, i have two of these, does that sound correct?
3) what is second row down, 2nd and 3rd over? My replacement isolator has a ring and washer molded in it.
4) are these kits available?

Brian

MODIFIED · Post by **MODIFIED** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:40 am

1) Should large isolator sit on top of frame cup or fit down inside it. The replacement one i have sits on top? My old one looked like it sat down in cup.

the large isolator should fit snug within the cup.

2) 3rd row down, second over, i have two of these, does that sound correct?

Yes, one goes atop and the other fits at the bottom of the small isolator.

3) what is second row down, 2nd and 3rd over? My replacement isolator has a ring and washer molded in it.

The newer repro kits do have the metal washers and associated seats integrated into the rubber casting.
Therefore, you'd only require the flat washers for the bolt when fed from the bottom and the lock-nut which secures the transfer case.

4) are these kits available?

the snubber components in my pic are original that i had re-plated.

bl5211a · Post by **bl5211a** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:07 am

Another question:

Does ring, second row down and second over fit down inside frame cup?
My replacement ring, molded in large isolator, does not fit inside and this may be my trouble spot.

Brian

bbloom · Post by **bbloom** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:22 am

Your old ring from your old rubber may be stuck in your crossmember.

Post by **wesk** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:53 am

Maybe this will make it easier. modified I edited your photos and put them in your Mjeeps album.

MODIFIED · Post by **MODIFIED** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:00 pm

Maybe this will make it easier. modified I edited your photos and put them in your Mjeeps album.

Just as well Wes. your diagram skills far exceed my novel patience for photoshop and the like. I did start the overlay for the image file but alas, my employer beckoned.

MODIFIED · Post by **MODIFIED** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:05 pm

bbloom wrote:Your old ring from your old rubber may be stuck in your crossmember.

x2

I've come across this dilemma with 4 units.. the old ring (band) just rust fuses in that cup.

bl5211a · Post by **bl5211a** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:24 pm

Yep, old ring is stuck in there . I media blasted and painted x member so it looked like part of the frame..ha.. Thanks for the help in solving mistery. Now to get old ring out...

bl5211a · Post by **bl5211a** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:51 pm

After closer inspection, i actually had 3 pcs of item 6. 2 were on 1 side and 1 on oposite side.
Brian

MODIFIED · Post by **MODIFIED** » Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:58 pm

Brian, try heating the band with a torch. This should break the rust adhesion to the cup. At this point, you should be able to pry it out easily.

bl5211a · Post by **bl5211a** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:09 am

Done, thanks for the help..