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M38 with a rear pto?

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:23 pm
by Festus
I came across a restored 1950 M38 with a rear pto? Would this have been original to the vehicle?

- Ken

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:27 pm
by wesk
From the factory? No.

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:31 pm
by Festus
If the factory didn't add it would then the military have added it?

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:51 pm
by wesk
It's possible and it's just as possible that a post military civilian owner added it.

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:34 pm
by jam51m38cdn
8O Now you have me wondering, I have a 51 m38 with a pto that was there as far as I can tell originally. and then I read about the bailey bridges. somebody please enlighten me. I really don`t know if what I have is a cdn or not either.

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:26 pm
by wesk
I have been wrenching on these jeeps since 1970 and today I still cannot say with 100% accuracy that any part was there originally from the factory.

Only a handful of M38's came from Willys with a PTO and winch. Those that did have a dash model weight and serial plate with the phrase w/winch on it.

Over the last 53 years (over a half century) there has been thousands of opportunities for thousands of civilian owners to add PTO's to their surplus M38's for any of a dozen purposes.

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This US M38 came without a winch & PTO.

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A US Built M38 that came from Willys with a winch & PTO would have had this plate.

Many folks agree that M38 CDN's all had winches & PTO's but that they were added in the field by the Canadian Military.

Yet look at this M38 CDN Plate:
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