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Voltage Regulator Frame Bracket

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:32 pm
by Eades
My voltage regulator bracket and battery tray were cut off by the previous owner who also converted to 12 volt. I am starting the restoration process piece by piece I am adding back. I ordered a regulator bracket since my shop metal work supplies are currently limited. It looks like nice quality but I am unsure of the fit. I have researched pictures of the frame and brackets and it is inconclusive to me whether there should be such a rake. The pictures are usually of limited perspective and I can't tell. Here are some pictures of the bracket in place. Thank you for your feedback on whether it fits correctly.

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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:23 pm
by wesk
You really should load a permanent signature element to your profile IE:
Rick, 1951 M38 & 1967 M715
Then we will always be aware which model jeep you are asking about should you forget to help us with model at the beginning of your post.

Yes it has a very slight uphill tilt forward.

You are holding your new support bracket about 2" too far forward. I would first locate the new battery tray and it's support legs before planting the regulator support
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An alternative for a correct stock M38 battery tray would be a CJ3A battery tray that is shortened so the forward battery box will fit correctly under the hood. Also a Brazilian member had a friend fabricate a new one for him that turned out quite well.

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There have been a few posts on this topic over the years and I have provided measurement photos several times from my old photo account but that account died about 7 years ago and I need to reload them in my Mjeeps album.

I will be very surprised if you can't find a photo to help you index your regulator support correctly in my Voltage Regulator Support Album:

http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... _album.php

Another way to get answers is search for old posts on this topic. Here's an example of what a search will yield: http://www.willysmjeeps.com/v2/modules. ... 1859#11859

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:51 am
by Eades
In fact where I'm holding it is the exact spot I just ground off the remainder of the old bracket. Someone cut it off with a torch.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:27 am
by mdainsd
For the battery bracket. I used a CJ-2 battery mount. it is low like the M38. Just barely high enough to clear the top of the shock absorber. I only had to grind off two rivets that attached a small piece at the rear that was there to stop the battery from sliding back. The M38 battery box to CJ-2A bracket is perfect!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:43 am
by Eades
I appreciate the information about the 2A battery tray. I have access, and I'll probably buy it, and M38 frame that still has it. I take it off and reinstall on mine. Then I need to find someone that needs a frame!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:22 am
by wesk
In your own words:
The pictures are usually of limited perspective
The perspective of your photo would tell more if taken straight down from above like the sample photo I provided to accurately assess spacing.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:25 am
by Eades
Granted Wes. I will take another when I get home. Thank you

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:56 am
by Eades
A photo and measurement of original location.
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:12 am
by wesk
Now there's an excellent photographic perspective!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:16 am
by Eades
Thanks. I just needed to upload it. My worry is that the bracket I received slopes too greatly to the rear. I have the tub off (never been on since I purchased it) and I do see that the regulator (I have old style) needs to clear air cleaner. So I perceive the downward tilt to be appropriate but to what degree is my concern. I purchased the part from overseas.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:45 am
by wesk
I left you a link in my previous photo post for my photo album where I have several photos that make it very clear how much tilt there is. You should take a look.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:28 pm
by Eades
Thank you those are great shots. Looks similar the way this fits.

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:55 pm
by Ryan_Miller
I think you may need to add some length to the rear leg on that bracket. Will have to look at mine tonight.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:05 pm
by wesk
My top illustration in post #2 shows the rear leg is 3/4" tall.

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This should help with getting the bracket to the correct height above the frame rail

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:34 pm
by Eades
I am at that distance Wes. Thanks for all of the helpful pictures. I took a couple of pictures with the splashguard in place last night and will post pics soon.