Retainer chain

Bretto · Post by **Bretto** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:13 pm

Does anyone know what the type of chain is or what it's called that retains the various items so they don't get lost like the gas cap?

evanso1975 · Post by **evanso1975** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:21 pm

Is this the type of chain you mean?

If so, I believe it's called weldless chain. Your local hardware store will most likely sell it by the foot. Or you can try fleabay. Not sure if it comes in different sizes or configurations though.

Owen.

Bretto · Post by **Bretto** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:43 pm

Ya that's the chain. Bigbox shops around here don't carry it.

timjuhl · Post by **timjuhl** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:34 pm

Got mine at TSC (Tractor Supply). I've also seen it in various hardware stores, either brass or brass plated usually.

Tim

djalohr · Post by **djalohr** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:00 pm

i second with TSC

shack · Post by **shack** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:30 pm

Doesen't it need to be made of steel to be correct?

Bretto · Post by **Bretto** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:18 pm

No TSC around here

I'll keep my eyes open, can't be to hard to track some down.

evanso1975 · Post by **evanso1975** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:08 am

Doesen't it need to be made of steel to be correct?

Yep. From the ORD 9:
CHAIN, weldless, safety, S, thkns 0.018 in

"S" being the abbreviation for steel. The chain pictured in my earlier post is NOS, and was painted green. So, brass would work OK since it gets painted. Inside the fuel cap I suppose was unpainted.

OKCM38CDN · Post by **OKCM38CDN** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:49 am

Check your local ACE or Best hardware stores, that is where I got mine... I went with brass as it does not rust...

whydahdvr · Post by **whydahdvr** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:54 am

This looks similar to window sash chains so check out the big box stores too for similar chain. If you really have to I bet a marine supply would have something compatible.

wilfreeman · Post by **wilfreeman** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:42 pm

Saw it at Northern Tool today - brass, 1-0 (size, I guess), 15' of it - no price. I took it up front for a price check - $28! I put it back since I didn't need 15' of it anyway.

Any sources for the different clips (seat, shackle pins, top bow wing screw, top bow rods)? I think the shackle, seat, gas cap and radiator cap pins are all the same.

How are the chains attached at the other end? One of the shackle brackets, that still had a chain and pin attached, looked like a rivet driven into a drilled hole. Is it really a tapped hole and a screw? How are the rest of them attached?

I'm not ready to put these chains and pins on mine yet, but it is something that has crossed my mind a couple of times.

Bretto · Post by **Bretto** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:40 am

The other end is a rivet of sorts called a u drive screw.

wilfreeman · Post by **wilfreeman** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:55 am

I have seen (or used) those somewhere before. Would a Lowe's or Home Depot have these (or maybe Tractor Supply)? I've been playing around with making my own clips - would probably take less time than driving somewhere to buy them, and definately cheaper than buying (and shipping) from one of the MV parts dealers!

evanso1975 · Post by **evanso1975** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:04 am

I think the shackle, seat, gas cap and radiator cap pins are all the same.

Not sure about the M38A1, but the M38 original radiator cap looks like this:

No place to fasten a safety chain.

Couldn't see one in the ORD 9, but I may have missed it.......

wilfreeman · Post by **wilfreeman** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:35 am

I'm not saying mine is original to the M38a1, but the dealer I bought it from said NOS for M38 and M38a1 - there isn't anywhere on top of the radiator to attach the chain though - that's why it's not on there. May not be right for the M38 and a1 - I was in the "Buy anything that the dealer says is NOS for the Jeep" mindset back then. I guess I could find some sort of clamp for the overflow tube - I like the idea of keeping it with the vehicle, as I am prone to lose stuff!

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